Remove 1 Vote Maps from Weighted Votes

[D3athrow-Issues]

(WEB REPORT BY: gunosaguki REMOTE: 158.69.55.2:7777) Its not worth potentially allientating a large portion of the active players who clearly didnt want the 1 vote map for that round.

I'm fine for having maps having a chance to be vote. but 1 vote is NOT a "chance" its a high chance of it being a special snowflake who was just looking to piss people off by it winning.

[9600bauds]

1 vote is NOT a "chance" It's a small chance, that sounds like a chance to me

a special snowflake hooo boy

[Ephx1]

Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahaha

[Zth--]

what

[Exxion]

[Honk]

[Ephx1]

Spelling/Grammar

It just gets better and better

[SysadminJeroen]

GET FUCKED

[Gunosaguki]

CptWad, other maps get played plenty now. im just talking about 1 votes for that PARTICULAR vote. There is not much point in a 1 vote map winning if clearly hardly anyone wanted to play that map at that moment.

There is value to be had to balancing the "We need to test these maps!" and "We want to play THIS map".

[Exxion]

Which is why it almost never happens The chance of a map winning is exactly equal to the percentage of people who voted for it, as it should be And to be honest I can't figure out any reason one would want it to be different other than just so we can go back to 24/7 Box, which we implemented this feature to avoid.

[Gunosaguki]

It wouldnt make it 24/7 box. it would give % to the non-box maps too.

Im honestly shocked at how much against this everyone is. I feel like most of you are thinking about this from a map testing point of view and not a player happiness point of view.

[Exxion]

You're one of about three people who dislikes the new system, as far as I'm aware.

[9600bauds]

Apparently it's allientating to have your vote not win, so his complaint is that one vote winning is allientating a lot of people. However he's not taking into consideration that said voter probably got very allientated when his vote didn't win the last 30 times, the current system keeps the allientation equally distributed. Otherwise you would be permanently allientating the lone voter.

[Exxion]

If you really, really cannot tolerate the map that wins, then you can just sit out a round. But honestly the maps that get played less are better in my opinion and even if you disagree it seems rather petty to get that upset over just which map is played.

[Gunosaguki]

i dont dislike any of the maps except for non-snow taxi, but ill tollerate it because it has the best roid and i play xenoarch/miner often.. I'm purely talking about this from a "This looks like a stupid ass part of this system, we should probably tweak it a bit" perspective. i wont get really pissed off it isn't changed. This is mostly from a "I think it could be improved" point of view.

[Exxion]

But what's wrong with it? I just don't get it.

[9600bauds]

I don't think you appreciate the allientation distribution

[Gunosaguki]

Whats wrong with it is that there should be some factoring of the larger playerbase in the weighted vote.

[9600bauds]

The votes control the % of each map winning

[Gunosaguki]

You're missing the point entirely. removing 1 votes from the weighted vote would ENSURE that voting has some purpose other than "rng dictated this map won" it makes it so that the maps that were picked were wanted to be playn by more than one person.

[Exxion]

RNG dictated the map won with a percent chance equivalent to the percentage of people who want to play it Exactly as it should be

[Gunosaguki]

why are we allowing RNG to pick a map with 1 vote? thats the point im making. for the sake of RNG? thats it?

[Exxion]

Because one person voted for it, of course The point you're making just doesn't seem to make any sense

[PJB3005]

Becuase if 10% of the playerbase wants to play deff then deff gets picked 10% of the time?

[Gunosaguki]

the point you're making doesnt seem to make any sense

[9600bauds]

I'm lost here, do you have an issue with RNG or with minority votes?

[Gunosaguki]

1 person =/= minority is the point im making

1 person = individual

[Exxion]

Which is still a minority

[Gunosaguki]

No. there is majorities. there is minorities. there are individuals that nobody agrees with

[9600bauds]

You seem to be the only individual here who doesn't like the new system

[Exxion]

So you're suggesting that someone's opinion is invalid just because nobody who decided to vote agrees with them?

[Gunosaguki]

You guys seem to not understand what im getting at all. and its not even remotely hard to understand but you seem to have trouble with it

[Gunosaguki]

1 vote is unfair. I dont give a fuck which map won the 1 vote

[Exxion]

How is it unfair to give 1 vote a fair chance of winning? How is it fair to discount that one vote?

[Gunosaguki]

1 vote is more unfair winning to the other maps with 3+ votes than it is to the 1 vote only having 1 vote and thus a small chance

[Exxion]

That's not how fairness works.

[Gunosaguki]

you guys need to get the statistics out of your eyes

[Gunosaguki]

Unlikely =/= its good to leave it as is

Cancer is unlikely. is that good?

[PJB3005]

You do realise that the chance for a map to win is directly related to the amount of votes, right?

Also, cancer is like the shittiest analogy ever.

[Gunosaguki]

i just picked a random bad thing

[Exxion]

You know, if we did decide to discount single votes because nobody agrees with them, then your opinion would be the first to be discounted.

[Gunosaguki]

except at least 3 people int he thread have agreed with me so im not a single vote

[Gunosaguki]

Lol. you immediately just made me think way less of you by claiming people on my side are samefags

[Gunosaguki]

that explains why you cant see a point

[Exxion]

1/20 = 3/60 60 is, of course, an estimate, but probably a low one given how many people have visibly spoken on this issue.

[9600bauds]

5% to win = 1 in 19 chance to win -> map wins -> 19 people played a map they didn't want to

5% to win = 1 in 19 chance to win -> map doesn't win 19 times in a row -> guy played a map he didn't want to 19 times

It evens out

[Gunosaguki]

9600bauds made the best point

[Gunosaguki]

clusterfack. that'd only be on github

[Exxion]

9600bauds made the same point the rest of us have been He just explained it more clearly.

[9600bauds]

We should go back to the old system which spoke like a vox

[PJB3005]

Also 3 people in the thread is the minority in this case.

[Gunosaguki]

PJB3005, but the point im making is individual votes. not minority votes