Open refact0r opened 1 year ago
I am newly using a 30% keyboard, and wow, I really need "hold on other key press" as an option to make the Z-shift work as my muscle memory demands. Just commenting to say that I would love for this option to be in Vial! (Overall, I am loving the software, btw – thank you!)
Okay, after more research, I was able to solve most of my problem. This issue still seems valid, I think, but in case other new folks arrive at this issue, as I have, here's how I made shift work for me...
Instead of using tap-dance for e.g. Z/shift, use the "quantum" key settings wherever possible. It seems that these have the "Hold on Other Key Press" applied by default.
I would also really like Hold on Other Key Press
feature. For example, to normally bind esc
as MO(..)
to another layer.
UPD: Just realized that there is special code LT
What actually seems to be the case is that IGNORE_MOD_TAP_INTERRUPT
was replaced with HOLD_ON_OTHER_KEY_PRESS
. It appears Vial implemented this by implementing get_hold_on_other_key_press
as the negation of the old get_ignore_mod_tap_interrupt
(i.e. !(QS.tapping & 2)
) instead of inverting the meaning of the flag in Vial and re-wording it in Vial GUI. So Hold on Other Key Press
is actually present in Vial, it just has its value inverted and the wrong label.
I would also really like
Hold on Other Key Press
feature. For example, to normally bindesc
asMO(..)
to another layer.UPD: Just realized that there is special code LT at layers tab. With that I can easly setup esc on tap -> change layer on hold without tap-dance tapping term issues!
Thanks for mentioning this! The LT(layer) does indeed seem to work as "Hold on Other Key Press." Using this instead of tapdance just doubled my one-handed typing WPM and reduced errors with half-QWERTY!
So Hold on Other Key Press is actually present in Vial, it just has its value inverted and the wrong label.
Yeah, at least for the layer/mod tap keys, it seems like Hold On Other Key Press works when Ignore Mod Tap Interrupt is disabled, and does not work when it is enabled.
I think the Tapping Force Hold setting is also inverted in Vial, it only seems to work when I uncheck the setting.
QMK has updated some of the Tap-Hold settings. https://github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware/blob/master/docs/tap_hold.md
There is a new Hold on Other Key Press option: https://github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware/commit/610035dce8f4f7010779e61e1cb590eebc8cea46
Tapping Force Hold has been replaced with Quick Tap Term: https://github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware/commit/cbabc8dbe6a8476d3082e8bc649d330f87e7b904