Double and triple "?"'s

[scootergrisen]

I see some comments/strings containing double and triple "?"'s and "!"'s. Is this nessesary? Perhaps just use one.

#. ???
#: if_tcl.c:757
msgid "cannot set line(s)"

#. could not (re)open the swap file, what can we do????
#: memline.c:716
msgid "E301: Oops, lost the swap file!!!"

#: memline.c:951
msgid "E304: ml_upd_block0(): Didn't get block 0??"

#: os_amiga.c:1036
msgid "mch_get_shellsize: not a console??\n"

#. don't overwrite messages here
#. must give this prompt
#. don't use emsg() here, don't want to flush the buffers
#: fileio.c:5374
msgid "WARNING: The file has been changed since reading it!!!"

#. could not (re)open the swap file, what can we do????
#: memline.c:716
msgid "E301: Oops, lost the swap file!!!"

Also some strings have space before "?" and "!" and some strings does not. Perhaps some spaces should be removed.

#: os_amiga.c:957
msgid "cannot change console mode ?!\n"

[brammool]

I see some strings containing double and triple "?"'s. Is this nessesary?

#. ???
#: if_tcl.c:757
msgid "cannot set line(s)"

#. could not (re)open the swap file, what can we do????
#: memline.c:716
msgid "E301: Oops, lost the swap file!!!"

#: memline.c:1480
msgid "???MANY LINES MISSING"

#: memline.c:1496
msgid "???LINE COUNT WRONG"

#: memline.c:1503
msgid "???EMPTY BLOCK"

#: memline.c:1529
msgid "???LINES MISSING"

#: memline.c:1567
msgid "???BLOCK MISSING"

#: memline.c:1583
msgid "??? from here until ???END lines may be messed up"

#: memline.c:1599
msgid "??? from here until ???END lines may have been inserted/deleted"

#: memline.c:1619
msgid "???END"

#: memline.c:1687
msgid ""
"E312: Errors detected while recovering; look for lines starting with ???"

Perhaps just use one "?".

No, please keep the ???. These are markers that are inserted when recovering a file with errors. If the user doesn't have another way to restore the text, searching for ??? will find the places where Vim was unable to recover the text.

Same for "!":

#. don't overwrite messages here
#. must give this prompt
#. don't use emsg() here, don't want to flush the buffers
#: fileio.c:5374
msgid "WARNING: The file has been changed since reading it!!!"

#. could not (re)open the swap file, what can we do????
#: memline.c:716
msgid "E301: Oops, lost the swap file!!!"

These are just to emphasise the text, as in shouting.

Also some strings have space before "?" and "!" and some strings does not. Perhaps some spaces should be removed.

Examples?

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[scootergrisen]

It seems you quoted the initial text i wrote but i edited the text after that so its different now.

[brammool]

It seems you quoted the initial text i wrote but i edited the text after that so its different now.

I don't think edits result in an email notification, thus I don't see them. I normally deal with issues through email to avoid having to jump around the internet.

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[scootergrisen]

These strings are not questions are they?:

cannot change console mode ?!
mch_get_shellsize: not a console??

Maybe it should be:

cannot change console mode!
mch_get_shellsize: not a console!

Or:

cannot change console mode
mch_get_shellsize: not a console

[scootergrisen]

Instead of:

??? from here until ???END lines may be messed up
??? from here until ???END lines may have been inserted/deleted
???END

Maybe use placeholder %s to insert the "???END" string so its the same:

??? from here until %s lines may be messed up
??? from here until %s lines may have been inserted/deleted
???END

In some translations like cs.po its translated like this which im guessing is not correct:

msgid "??? from here until ???END lines may be messed up"
msgstr "od ??? po ???END mohou být øádky pomíchané"

msgid "??? from here until ???END lines may have been inserted/deleted"
msgstr "od ??? po ???END mohou být vlo¾ené/smazané øádky"

msgid "???END"
msgstr "???KONEC"

[brammool]

These strings are not questions are they?:

cannot change console mode ?!

This is a "what happened here" remark.

mch_get_shellsize: not a console??

This is a "that's really weird" remark.

Maybe it should be:

cannot change console mode!
mch_get_shellsize: not a console!

Or:

cannot change console mode
mch_get_shellsize: not a console

That takes the fun out of the messages.

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[scootergrisen]

Also could remove space before "!" in these two strings:

(NFA) COULD NOT OPEN %s !
E874: (NFA) Could not pop the stack !

[brammool]

Also could remove space before "!" in these two strings:

(NFA) COULD NOT OPEN %s !
E874: (NFA) Could not pop the stack !

The first message is only for debugging. I don't think we should bother translating it.

The other space should indeed be dropped.

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[scootergrisen]

E871: (NFA regexp) Can't have a multi follow a multi !

[scootergrisen]

If strings like "(NFA) COULD NOT OPEN %s !" is not suppose to be translated then perhaps remove it from the po files so people dont translate it.

[chrisbra]

Fixed by https://github.com/vim/vim/commit/3c867daaf09e8ac6ce4b9d43d6fbbfdd7689702d