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bug in vl_nnbnorm.cu when using moments from outside #1174

Open ityer82 opened 6 years ago

ityer82 commented 6 years ago

Hi, I check the vl_nnbnorm derivative (using small changes in the input) and got correct derivative of the input (=der_data) only if the moments weren't inserted using 'moments' option. Looking at the code nnbnorm.cu seems that that 'batch_normalize_backward' is called at both BatchNormBackward and BatchNormForwardWithMoment structs, which cause the problem, since the close-form of the der_data output is true only if moments are a function of the input. When they are fixed (e.g using 'moments' option) the der_data expresssion should be different (since dloss/data doesn't depend of dloss/dmoments) Am I right?

thuster commented 5 years ago

I'm seeing the same bug... took me a while to track down what was happening. This is important in, e.g., adversarial image generation. As a simple workaround, I added these lines to dagnn.BatchNorm after the vl_nnbnorm call:

dydx = reshape(params{1}./params{3}(:,2),1,1,[],1); derInputs{1} = derOutputs{1}.*dydx;

ityer82 commented 5 years ago

Hi Thanks for taking the time to respond. Can you specify what params represent? And why do you think this is the needed workaround. I’m not working with dag, but rather wrote the main pipe (e.g the backprop), and using only the function. So I could see how to work it around? Thanks, Itay

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I'm seeing the same bug... took me a while to track down what was happening. This is important in, e.g., adversarial image generation. As a simple workaround, I added these lines to dagnn.BatchNorm after the vl_nnbnorm call:

dydx = reshape(params{1}./params{3}(:,2),1,1,[],1); derInputs{1} = derOutputs{1}.*dydx;

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