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VMware Fusion Player 12.x killed Windows8.1x64 #582

Open juanpc2018 opened 2 years ago

juanpc2018 commented 2 years ago

Describe the bug

i have a MacPro 5,1 2010 installed Parallels and VMWare Fusion Player 12.x to test

did the mistake of using the Bootcamp drive as Virtual Drive. VMWare installs a bunch of stuff i cannot Uninstall.

damaged the windows install. for example, Virtual Bootcamp was working ok, had some strange issues like free ratio screen size..

when i rebooted to Real Bootcamp, "same HardDrive, same Machine" All Hell Broke Lose...

Windows has a Copy Protection Watchdog, example: if i clone Windows HDD to another HDD, with Clonezilla sector by sector copy. Windows copy protection kicks-in making Windows super slow... affects the HDD drivers or something.

Real Bootcamp detected my MacPro5,1 as Fake windows, my MacPro5,1 detected Bootcamp as Fake windows, when that happens computer UUID is recorded as "Enemy".

its a legal windows, i cannot Reactivate keys already activated.

if i move the HDD to another PC activated before "detected as Friendly", Windows works ok again. but still has some Errors i cannot Update. i cannot create a Restore USB. i cannot install intel inf drivers manually.

SFC /SCANNOW gives Resource Protection Error: https://helpdeskgeek.com/help-desk/how-to-fix-windows-resource-protection-could-not-perform-the-requested-operation-error/

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/system-file-check-sfc-scan-and-repair-system-files/bc609315-da1f-4775-812c-695b60477a93?auth=1 DSIM works Ok.

im 100% sure the problem was VMware Fusion 12.x needs a much better uninstaller. and something to repair the registry keys.

i have to Erase Whole Windows again....and re install everything again if i want to use the Mac Pro 5,1 again. or buy another Windows license, another harddrive, and install again. or install a pirate Activator to Activate my legal Windows. Insane & Absurd. Not my fault, i did Nothing wrong.

Reproduction steps

install VMWare Fusion Player 12.x

Expected behavior

Uninstall correctly, Not affect Windows Keys.

Additional context

No response

lousybrit commented 2 years ago

Hi there

Sorry to hear about this mess using Bootcamp partition as a VM.

Our Fusion/Workstation team explicitly tested Bootcamp partitions for recent changes. However, when you say, "VMware installs a bunch of stuff" what does that mean exactly?

I understand you have VMWare Fusion Player 12.x, installed. What does about VMware Fusion report? Version and build number? Can you specify what steps you did after this? I assume you would create the Bootcamp VM but did you install VMware Tools after that or not? What version of Windows is running in the Bootcamp partition/VM? I am going to file a bug about this for our Fusion team but want to supply as many details of the environment setup and steps you did. This way they can reproduce this issue.

Also, as you mention if Windows sees that it is not activated after a specific time, it will deliberately make itself unusable. We are supposed to protect ourselves against this type of issue. But clearly something is amiss here.

Thanks Steve

juanpc2018 commented 2 years ago

installs: vmware system driver, vmware video driver, vmware tools, for Windows, nothing can be uninstalled. there is a new version of vmware drivers in windows update, but windows update does Not work, because the problem. catch 22 paradox

vmware tools 11.1.5.16724464

lousybrit commented 2 years ago

Thanks for the update

vmware system driver => VMCI driver? You say that you cannot uninstall vmware Tools? Is this being attempted when run as a VM in Fusion or running Bootcamp native? The vmware tools should uninstall if run in Fusion, if the Windows OS allows you to do something. If that fails, can you get the vmware tools installer logs? They should be in the logged on user's %TEMP% folder (vminst.log vmmsi*.log)

What is the version of Windows running in the Bootcamp drive?

juanpc2018 commented 2 years ago

VMware Fusion Player 12.x killed Windows8.1x64 #582

Windows Activation is 1st line of defense, but Windows has other defenses, even if Windows is Activated. for example: when you clone an Activated HDD with Clonezilla sector by sector. Windows detects hardware does Not math, and activates "deactivates SATA drivers" making Windows very slow., but everything else works ok. like cpu bench test for example.

everything must go through virtual pagefile.sys

if you have a 80Mb pagefile limit, windows shuts down very fast, but if you have a 800MB file or more, windows takes 1 hour to shutdown. same for defrag and disk error check, defrag takes 9 hours for 1tb drive, and after defrag, windows becomes slower.

VMware activated that alarm when i rebooted the machine as normal bootcamp drive. Hardware does Not match with keys.

when i moved Windows HDD to previous activated PC a "Trusted PC", Alarm went off, and windows runs "normal" again, but still has some issues with updates, creating restore usb, etc... Alarm is Not totally deactivated. just lowered DEFCON level. There is No way to tell microsoft to shut down the alarm. "i´m the owner of this windows license, i have the box and the original key card."

https://youtu.be/QG_8f583UsM https://youtu.be/MtwuI9oUl5Y?t=70 https://youtu.be/vbUTbqwKtEE?t=51

lousybrit commented 2 years ago

VMware Fusion Player 12.x killed Windows8.1x64 #582

Windows Activation is 1st line of defense, but Windows has other defenses, even if Windows is Activated. for example: when you clone an Activated HDD with Clonezilla sector by sector. Windows detects hardware does Not math, and activates "deactivates SATA drivers" making Windows very slow., but everything else works ok. like cpu bench test for example.

everything must go through virtual pagefile.sys

if you have a 80Mb pagefile limit, windows shuts down very fast, but if you have a 800MB file or more, windows takes 1 hour to shutdown. same for defrag and disk error check, defrag takes 9 hours for 1tb drive, and after defrag, windows becomes slower.

VMware activated that alarm when i rebooted the machine as normal bootcamp drive. Hardware does Not match with keys.

when i moved Windows HDD to previous activated PC a "Trusted PC", Alarm went off, and windows runs "normal" again, but still has some issues with updates, creating restore usb, etc... Alarm is Not totally deactivated. just lowered DEFCON level. There is No way to tell microsoft to shut down the alarm. "i´m the owner of this windows license, i have the box and the original key card."

https://youtu.be/QG_8f583UsM https://youtu.be/MtwuI9oUl5Y?t=70 https://youtu.be/vbUTbqwKtEE?t=51

You should talk to Microsoft customer support about cloning your Windows install and your Windows license. It would seem from what you describe that you must have a second license to activate for the cloned disk.

The clone will cause the Windows installation to be seen as a new version so you need a new license as you have 2 installations now. Just moving the disk is not the same, it is still one installation only.

Steve

juanpc2018 commented 2 years ago

The Approved Microsoft method, to move Windows to another New / Faster HDD/ SSD / M.2 drive is creating a Restore USB, then create a Restore Back up to another bigger NTFS drive, USB3.0 external or internal, turn-off remove the old drive, insert New drive boot to Microsft Restore USB, restore the backup .vhdx from USB3.0 drive to New drive. when finished: remove USB, reboot, Windows will ask again to reactivate Windows if its a Boxed license, if its OEM license, requires a new license purchase, Delete / Erase the old HDD. keep the restore backup. DONE.

But... is Not as easy.. If Windows was installed in Legacy Bios Board, has a Legacy Bootloader, and Restore USB is Not smart enough, cannot Restore a Bios Bootloader into a New UEFI machine, or M.2 drive, Unless you delete manually the Bootloader partition, and create a new boot partition with bcd, to be UEFI or "All Bios+UEFI", but "All" does Not work with Mac.

or purchase a software that does that automatically, like: twocanoes WinClone for OSX or EaseUS partition Master 15.0 for Windows.

some brands of SSD have a migration Software that also does that.

i have moved several Windows from one drive to a New drive, No problem using the Approved Microsoft Restore USB method.

Windows To Go is different. is moving the same drive to a different machine, possible with Boxed Full Retail license, but only to internal SATA, external USN3.0 does Not work unless you do a very complicated procedure, Thunderbolt should work, in theory, but Mac EFI adds another variable.

I was just trying to explain what the VMware Fusion Player 12. did to my Windows drive, analogy/similar example. VMware created a Problem i cannot solve, and Bill Gates does Not care.

Microsoft Windows Forums answer to everything is: Delete & Reinstall, we don´t care about your time. https://answers.microsoft.com/

"if you have cancer,, clone your self, and kill the older body."

lousybrit commented 2 years ago

Ok, I am taking a step back here. To summarize the problem.

Is the above a correct summary?

juanpc2018 commented 2 years ago

accurate summary,

DISKPART CLEAN Very strange that Windows is designed to Quickly delete everything...

CLEAN has No warning, No confirmation..No ¿are you sure? (y/N) No type the password again. Not changed in 40 years.

i guess Top Secret Classified information must be stored in Windows drives around the globe to have a Kill Switch.

https://youtu.be/_-4Q4mhh3tM?t=39 https://youtu.be/OBOZIErHhWM?t=194 https://youtu.be/2ePBNGmxVK8

i forgot to back-up files, purchased music, .iso installers, games, etc.... Nothing Life & Death i hope.