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Void Linux website
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Request for translation approval #53

Open rc-05-zz opened 5 years ago

rc-05-zz commented 5 years ago

Hello, i was thinking about starting to translate the void linux page in Italian if possible. In order to organize foreign languages i was thinking about using subdirectories for each language (if somebody wants to translate it to another lang).

the-maldridge commented 5 years ago

I'd like to investigate some kind of jekyll system to do the internationalization. That way we could ideally keep the pages and posts together, just switching them on the frontend.

rc-05-zz commented 5 years ago

Maybe i could do something similar to this, since this site uses jekyll: https://forestry.io/blog/creating-a-multilingual-blog-with-jekyll/

rc-05-zz commented 5 years ago

Maybe i could do something similar to this, since this site uses jekyll: https://forestry.io/blog/creating-a-multilingual-blog-with-jekyll/

It divides the same blog in different directories, one for each lang: if there is a better method i'm free to listen!

the-maldridge commented 5 years ago

Edited your comment to fix the link.

the-maldridge commented 5 years ago

That looks like it could work. Since it requires changes to the site layout, I would sync with @gottox first. Some time ago there was an intent to re-design the site.

rc-05-zz commented 5 years ago

The design of the site is perfect: simple and coincise. It's a matter of re-organizing the directory structure and enable multi-lang support for it... We'll see what @Gottox wants to do

Gottox commented 5 years ago

The site's may be good, but the underlying src is old and crud. We can do better :D

I'm a little concerned how we can keep the site up to date

the-maldridge commented 5 years ago

Are you referring to the code in general or the source that drives it? Part of me would rather see the website redone in something that natively supports translations, though that would be a larger project.

rc-05-zz commented 5 years ago

The site's may be good, but the underlying src is old and crud. We can do better :D

I'm a little concerned how we can keep the site up to date

Maybe we could fork the website source and then do merge requests?

For example each "team" of translation could fork the void website's repo, do the modifications and then create a merge request?

Or it would be better to rewrite the site from scratch? @Gottox @the-maldridge

Gottox commented 5 years ago

I have a WIP redesign of the page in my working copy. Nevertheless, I got some feedback and wanted to apply that first.

For the translation in general: I'm concerned that it's hard to maintain changes on the page when we have to apply them to languages we can't speak.

Vaelatern commented 5 years ago

We'd want to make English the landing page, and I'm sure there is tooling for pointing out a translation has fallen behind in a specific place.

rc-05-zz commented 5 years ago

A menu could be added that lets the user display the page in their language: an idea for a menu would be to list the different languages with small icons of countries' flags so that it's more intuitive

Vaelatern commented 5 years ago

I will reject any menu that does not also include text. Flag icons: OK. Only flag icons: Not OK. But a menu for language selection is not a terrible idea.

rc-05-zz commented 5 years ago

Maybe when the user hovers the cursor over a flag it specified the language: that could be intuitive enough to everybody

Vaelatern commented 5 years ago

Possibly. "intuitive" is not the same as "accessible", I don't know what, for example, screen readers do with alt text. I also don't know how many country flags are indistinguishable for people who are red-green color blind.

rc-05-zz commented 5 years ago

Maybe a more "accessible" way (for example for color blind people) would be to integrate the page with a textual menu instead of a graphical one for choosing the language?

Vaelatern commented 5 years ago

so, to summarize: I will reject any menu that does not also include text. Flag icons: OK. Only flag icons: Not OK.

rc-05-zz commented 5 years ago

That's perfect. So, should I start by forking the code of the website or not?

ghost commented 4 years ago

What is the current status of this issue, someone working on a solution? @Gottox @the-maldridge @Vaelatern

superuser-does commented 4 years ago

Re: the above, I refer you to http://www.flagsarenotlanguages.com/blog/best-practice-for-presenting-languages/

You shouldn't really have flags at all for many good reasons, but if you insist then you should have text next to them that is visible by default in the language's native name.

Vaelatern commented 4 years ago

I personally am not working on a solution. Contributions probably welcome.

vitiko98 commented 4 years ago

Is this still a thing? I'm ready to contribute with a spanish translation.