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Requirements for Chinese Text Layout
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Zhuyin annotations #165

Closed emuller-amazon closed 6 years ago

emuller-amazon commented 6 years ago

I have some difficulty reconciling CLREQ 3.3.3 with the other sources I can find about zhuyin annotations.

YuRen-tw commented 6 years ago

1

Checked tone in Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Checked_tone):

a checked tone is not a tone in the phonetic sense but rather a syllable that ends in a stop consonant or a glottal stop.

and

have disappeared from most Mandarin dialects (spoken in northern and southwestern China), but remain preserved in southeastern branches of Chinese such as Yue, Min, and Hakka.

Tone Neutral Non-Neutral
Symbol ˙ ˊ ˇ ˋ
Unicode 02D9 02CA 02C7 02CB
Dialectal Tone Non-Checked Checked
Symbol ˪ ˫
Unicode 02EA 02EB 31B4 31B5 31B6 31B7
Dialectal Checked tones
Symbol
Unicode 31B4 31B5 31B6 31B7
Stop consonant Bilabial Alveolar Velar Glottal
-p -t -k -h

Checked tone have disappeared from Mandarin Chinese, so the symbols are not described in "The manual of the phonetic symbols of Mandarin Chinese"; furthermore, they are in the "Bopomofo Extended" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bopomofo_Extended).

2

In figure 13, 3rd example, it's <U+3127, U+31B5>

3

<U+0307> is COMBINING DOT ABOVE. As I know, in Taiwanese Hokkien, a symbol of checked tone is used to indicate the 4th tone. And a symbol with a "COMBINING DOT ABOVE" is used to indicate the 8th tone, which is also a checked tone, but just higher than 4th. (see Taiwanese Phonetic Symbols in Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwanese_Phonetic_Symbols)