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hacked? spam? #2216

Closed pixelass closed 6 years ago

pixelass commented 6 years ago

I just saw this popover.

I am not sure if you have been hacked or if this is just spam.

Either way, I won't be able to access the site while this issue is open.

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Loirooriol commented 6 years ago

Just close it by clicking the cross at the top-right corner. Or hide it using the uBlock Origin that you have installed. Or install uMatrix, it will block 3rd-party scripts by default. Or disable JavaScript. Etcetera.

TejasQ commented 6 years ago

I believe this is a message to help protect Net Neutrality in the USA and not a hack/bug.

pixelass commented 6 years ago

Most of the people in this world are not from the USA so this is clearly spam. I don't access sites that force me to look at spam. If this is meant to be there is no reason to further support this working group.

The USA needs to understand that they are NOT the center of the world and frankly a lot of people have a big problems with nations dumb enough to vote certain presidents.

@Loirooriol you are missing the point. This is spam. And IMHO spam should stay on porn and streaming sites where they belong. The suggestion "Just close it" just shows how little people care about their users.

I want to make the web a better place and want to look at the specs. I can't look at the specs because I am annoyed by some USA specific issue that I can't even vote for. I don't think the working-group website is the right place for "propaganda". Sorry but I have zero respect for your view. Forcing span upon users is unacceptable.

BTW I am using ublockOrigin (security guideline) and this popup is not removed.

Loirooriol commented 6 years ago

You said "I won't be able to access the site while this issue is open". That was false because you have multiple ways to access the site.

If your complain was that the popup is awful UX and only relevant in the USA then you should have said so in the first comment, and I agree.

To remove it using uBlock Origin, you need to use the element picker to create a rule.

pixelass commented 6 years ago

You are preventing people to access information. Just keep that in mind. Sorry but you just proved my point. (Maybe you should, in fact, work for questionable site with that point of view)

Do whatever you want. I will not rely on or mention the CSS working group anymore.

End of story.

pixelass commented 6 years ago

SIDENOTE. the (x) is so small that it's almost not visible. I don't think this complies with any Accessibility standard. Just proving my point here.

Whatever you think to achieve here, you are doing it wrong.

Besides the fact that this is spam you should at least respect people disabilities because anything else would be discriminating.

Loirooriol commented 6 years ago

Just to make it clear I'm not part of the WG, I didn't add that popup, and if you close this issue the WG may not notice it annoys people.

About the accessibility of the close button, you should probably complain in https://github.com/fightforthefuture/battleforthenet-widget

pixelass commented 6 years ago

I stated my point and will stop using this resource effective immediately. If you care, feel free to open a new issue.

I am very strict about spam and ads. Please don't take it personally.

(your reaction is personal though and IMHO unacceptable.)

Thank you

HerrBertling commented 6 years ago

(your reaction is personal though and IMHO unacceptable.)

Maybe re-read your comments and think about whether you had "personal reactions" in them…

Concerning the popup, I'm totally with you. Not a good idea, not a nice implementation and also not of concern for most of the world.

Concerning the discussion here, I'd like to invite you to start to

make the web a better place

by using kindness, the benefit of the doubt and the idea of good intentions regarding anyone on the net first. And maybe not attacking people for things they aren't even responsible for. Makes for a much better atmosphere and could help get your point across in a better way.

HerrBertling commented 6 years ago

I can't reproduce this from Hamburg, Germany, by the way, on the page you probably opened: https://drafts.csswg.org/css-transforms-1/

I am not using any ad blocker.

pixelass commented 6 years ago

I tend to overreact. I am fully aware of that. My reaction was personal because I value CSS a lot and use the drafts page a lot, therefore based on disappointment of the course this thread too. A non accessible popover is never a good idea and seeing this on a csswg page was a shock. Aside from that I first had to research what this is all about.

To clarify.

I opened this issue because I am not sure where this came from. I first checked several browsers to ensure that I'm not affected by any plugins. Then did regular checks on my computer. (Because that's what I always do when I see strange popups on sites that I would never expect them)

Until now my question has not been answered and I am still not sure if this is intentional.

I got advised to click the (x) or installing extra software. I think this advise is highly questionable.

That being said. @Loirooriol sorry if I was being rude. @HerrBertling thanks for the comment. There is some good advice in there. I have good intentions, I just have a hard time expressing myself.