Devices and Sensors WG - TPAC 2021 agenda

[reillyeon]

This issue is to work out an agenda for the Devices and Sensors WG meeting at TPAC 2021, a virtual event that will be held from the 18th to the 29th of October 2021. The week from the 25th to the 29th will be dedicated to Joint and Group meetings.

Registration

TPAC registration will open on 20 September 2021, register via https://www.w3.org/2021/10/TPAC/

Logistics

CONFIRMED dates and times, 1-2 hours a day, subject to the agenda:

• ⏰ 27 Oct 2021, 5:00-7:00 UTC (see your local time) - 🗓️ Calendar
• ⏰ 28 Oct 2021, 5:00-7:00 UTC (see your local time) - 🗓️ Calendar
• ⏰ 29 Oct 2021, 5:00-7:00 UTC (see your local time) - 🗓️ Calendar
• 📞 For Zoom details, see the meeting Calendar
• ✍️ IRC or irc://irc.w3.org:6667/#dap

27 Oct 2021, 5:00-7:00 UTC

📘 Charter update

• Charter 2021, new tentative deliverables and expectations @plehegar

🆕 New work / new features

• Contact Picker API https://wicg.github.io/contact-api/spec/ @rayankans?

  • Path to FPWD, joint publication with WebApps WG @marcoscaceres @anssiko

• Compute Pressure API

  • Origin Trial learnings @pwnall?
  • New backends arch review, new requirements? @kenchris @arskama

• Screen Wake Lock API https://w3c.github.io/screen-wake-lock/ @rakuco

  • Screen brightness mode https://github.com/w3c/screen-wake-lock/issues/129#issuecomment-817151517 @willmorgan

• Idle Detection API https://wicg.github.io/idle-detection/

  • New user presence signal(s), alternative backends @anssiko @rakuco
  • Origin Trial learnings @reillyeon

28 Oct 2021, 5:00-7:00 UTC

🔋 Other device capabilities

• Device Posture API https://w3c.github.io/device-posture/ (⏰ 5:00 UTC for @darktears)

  • Revised posture types: "continuous", "folded", "folded-over" @diekus @kenchris
  • TAG review status https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/575 @darktears
  • Semantic postures https://github.com/w3c/device-posture/issues/94 @diekus

• Screen Wake Lock API https://www.w3.org/TR/screen-wake-lock/

  • Path to CR, wide review https://github.com/w3c/screen-wake-lock/issues/270 @anssiko
  • Interaction with Page Life Cycle https://github.com/w3c/screen-wake-lock/issues/139 @jyasskin?

• Battery Status API

  • Private browsing mode special casing https://github.com/w3c/battery/issues/29 @samuelweiler
  • [merged] Make privacy mitigations normative https://github.com/w3c/battery/issues/27 @samuelweiler
  • Deprecation of non-SecureContext access to the getBattery() https://github.com/w3c/battery/issues/15 @rakuco @anssiko
  • Various editorial modernization updates (thanks @rakuco!)

• Network Information API

  • API rebooted to cater for new use cases https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2021Aug/0003.html @tomayac
  • Introduce and discuss the new proposed API https://raw.githack.com/tomayac/netinfo/relaunch/index.html (cf. the old API https://wicg.github.io/netinfo/) @tomayac

• Geolocation API

  • Path to CR->REC https://github.com/w3c/geolocation-api/issues/93 @anssiko
  • Explicitly limit permission lifetimes https://github.com/w3c/geolocation-api/issues/69 @pes10k @marcoscaceres

• HTML Media Capture

  • Development transferred to WHATWG https://www.w3.org/2021/06/WHATWG-W3C-MOU_2021_update.html @anssiko

29 Oct 2021, 5:00-7:00 UTC

🔒 Privacy, security, and architecture

• "AB/TAG experiment" recommendations update @xfq @anssiko @reillyeon
  • Specs in scope re-published as WDs, note the WG is pursuing modern security and privacy reviews
  • Discuss prerequisites for the reviews
• Privacy cross-group brainstorming @samuelweiler @npdoty @pes10k? @jonathankingston?
  • PING - discuss privacy horizontal review expectations, see how to get horizontal review
  • Privacy CG - discuss Privacy CG proposals, new proposals beneficial for this WG
  • Research - the user perspective of access to mobile sensors across platforms @maryammjd
• TAG collaboration @kenchris?
  • TAG review status check, any specific issues to seek advice on from the TAG?

📡 Sensors

• Sensors and permission bundles, low-level vs. high-level permissions https://github.com/w3c/permissions/issues/191 @tomayac
• Support non-"fully active" documents https://github.com/w3c/sensors/issues/415
• [merged] Concrete sensors and default allowlist https://github.com/w3c/accelerometer/pull/61 @anssiko
• Ambient Light Sensor, consider making granularity of the data normative https://github.com/w3c/ambient-light/issues/63 @jonathanKingston?
• Ambient Light Sensor, revisit developer feedback https://github.com/w3c/ambient-light/issues/64
• Magnetometer, discuss any spec blockers for shipping

Minutes

• https://www.w3.org/2021/10/27-dap-minutes.html
• https://www.w3.org/2021/10/28-dap-minutes.html
• https://www.w3.org/2021/10/29-dap-minutes.html
• https://www.w3.org/2021/11/17-dap-minutes.html (Brightness mode follow-up meeting)

Participants

All Devices and Sensors WG participants and invited guests.

[anssiko]

Update: fixed the URL to the new proposed Network Information API in the agenda: https://raw.githack.com/tomayac/netinfo/relaunch/index.html

@tomayac, thanks for reporting!

[marcoscaceres]

Agenda looks great! 😍 Looking forward to meeting.

[anssiko]

Thanks everyone for your responses to the scheduling poll.

We've now confirmed the DAS WG TPAC meeting dates and times as follows taking into account your preferences:

• ⏰ 27 Oct 2021, 5:00 UTC (see your local time)
• ⏰ 28 Oct 2021, 5:00 UTC (see your local time)
• ⏰ 29 Oct 2021, 5:00 UTC (see your local time)

We'll meet 1-2 hours each day, subject to the agenda and participants' availability.

All DAS WG participants and invited guests will receive meeting invitations with logistics.

[darktears]

The meeting is going to be 1AM my time so if the device posture section could be scheduled first thing in one of the days, I would appreciate it very much.

[anssiko]

@darktears I'm sympathetic to that request and we'll do our best to accommodate that.

[maryammjd]

Hi all, I have been conducting research on the user perspective of access to mobile sensors across platforms (mobile app and browser). I would be happy to share the results with DAS in one of the TPAC meetings this year. The title is: “I see it as a massive invasion of privacy": Risks of Mobile Ambient Sensors and User Awareness, Concerns, and Preferences.

5 am is not the easiest time for me since I have a young child. But I missed TPAC last year due to the same reason. So, I will try my best to attend and present this year.

[anssiko]

Thank you @maryammjd for your proposal, and my apologies for the meeting time that is certainly not optimal for you.

I have scheduled time for you during the 29 Oct 2021 session. Considering the other topics, you should plan for ~15 minutes including Q&A.

[reillyeon]

Thank you everyone for attending our TPAC 2021 meetings.