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Controlling pages transition is essential for digital-native comics creation #427

Closed GoogleCodeExporter closed 9 years ago

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
I've heard that nothing is planned in the AHL standard to control transition 
between pages.

For "homothetic" comics (electronic facsimile paper comics), it doesn't matter. 
But in digital comics creation, pages transitions are really important. If the 
reader displays a 3D turning page animation by default, there is no way to work 
on an infinite scrolling comics or a turbomedia (also known as Infinite comics, 
Thrillbent comics or DC2 ). 

Being able to control those page effects would allow to fully use the ePub 
format for digital-native comics creations.

Original issue reported on code.google.com by grimondc...@gmail.com on 18 Dec 2013 at 8:55

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
(Sorry, I've forgot to precise that this issue is for the AHL spec and find no 
way to change it. 

Thanks for your work !
Best wishes,

Claire)

Original comment by grimondc...@gmail.com on 18 Dec 2013 at 9:27

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago

Original comment by markus.g...@gmail.com on 15 Jan 2014 at 2:22

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
Infinite comic from Marvel is interesting.  But there are other 
interesting possibilities.  For example, 

Comic Theater (in Japanese)
http://renta.papy.co.jp/renta/sc/frm/page/index_n.htm
Madefire
http://www.madefire.com/

I have seen some interesting digital comic based on Adobe Flash.

I am not sure if we are ready to standardize such 
digital-first-paper-never comic.  The scope of AHL is 
much more modest.

Original comment by eb2m...@gmail.com on 21 Jan 2014 at 5:38

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
I'm afraid DC2 comics aren't possible with the current AHL format because of 
this page transition issue. 

Flash isn't a long-term solution. The swl isn't an open format. It can't be 
read on mobiles, except when nested in an Adobe Air application. 

There is also HTML5 books, but it's better for online reading. 

I think considering needs of digital native creation is important for the 
future of ePub (and for comics creators ;)

Original comment by grimondc...@gmail.com on 21 Jan 2014 at 7:41

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
What you call digital native creation is not in the charter of AHL.  

It is true that a lot of interesting techniques in digital comic are not 
possible in AHL.  Page transition is one of them.  I may be mistaken, but I do 
not think that  such techniques are ready for standardization.

Original comment by eb2m...@gmail.com on 28 Jan 2014 at 1:51

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
The AHL WG has agreed to close this issue without action, since it is outside 
the scope of AHL.

Original comment by eb2m...@gmail.com on 4 Feb 2014 at 2:23

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
As even though marked as WontFix, this feature was discussed and deemed for 
future consideration in the IDPF's comic workshop in Marc 26 2014 in Paris, I 
would like to leave here a reference to a similar feature being considered by 
Google's Chrome team: 
<https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/forum/#!msg/blink-dev/lWCtrTynaVk/Bvf4
jIeEuPcJ>. That one is about page transitions, though; understandably, not 
about transitions between regions of a same page.

Original comment by elmi...@gmail.com on 22 Jul 2014 at 2:50