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Do we want to use the Wiley Java book as an example? #34

Closed iherman closed 9 years ago

iherman commented 9 years ago

I am thinking of the video at http://www.wiley.com/college/sc/horstmann/. This is a perfect example where, apart from running on line, there is really nothing that differentiate this book from a well done interactive Web page... which is exactly the EPUB-WEB issue:-)

TzviyaSiegman commented 9 years ago

Good idea. I will look into it. I have other examples as well.

uptownnickbrown commented 9 years ago

Big Java is a great example of book content that works equally well in a web context.

It's interesting to look at the opposite perspective as well - there are lots of interactive Web pages that would make great books for offline use. For example, just looking at educational interactive content:

I mention it because moving from a website to a packaged document seems much more complex than vice versa. You have to handle links, 3rd-party dependencies (eg. js libraries), etc. It could be interesting to consider examples of moving in both directions across the EPUB-WEB boundary.

iherman commented 9 years ago

On 10 Mar 2015, at 19:28 , Nick Brown notifications@github.com wrote:

Big Java is a great example of book content that works equally well in a web context.

It's interesting to look at the opposite perspective as well - there are lots of interactive Web pages that would make great books for offline use. For example, just looking at educational interactive content:

• http://bost.ocks.org/mike/algorithms/ • https://jackschaedler.github.io/circles-sines-signals/index.html • http://worrydream.com/LadderOfAbstraction/ • http://setosa.io/ev/markov-chains/

I knew the first one (which is actually referred to from the document) but not the other three. And yes, these are great examples for articles that could make it to an offline document.

I mention it because moving from a website to a packaged document seems much more complex than vice versa. You have to handle links, 3rd-party dependencies (eg. js libraries), etc. It could be interesting to consider examples of moving in both directions across the EPUB-WEB boundary.

Indeed. But note that many of the browsers have actually solved the problem already, insofar as they offer the possibility to store some sort of an offline version of a page ("Web Page, Complete", as it is referred to in the menu by Firefox). It is just that all of them use a different way of storing the result. It would be a, comparatively, tiny step to store this in a standard and interoperable way...

Thanks!

ivan

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iherman commented 9 years ago

@TzviyaSiegman : what is the official reference to be used for the Java book? Ie, a URI... (I hope there is one for it, otherwise a page on Wiley's site?)

TzviyaSiegman commented 9 years ago

See http://bcs.wiley.com/he-bcs/Books?action=index&bcsId=7005&itemId=1118087887. Some of materials are PDFs, but many link to video, etc (see "more information")

iherman commented 9 years ago

Closed by virtue of the merged pull request #36. Thanks to @TzviyaSiegman for the link; I have also incorporated some links provided by @uptownnickbrown

uptownnickbrown commented 9 years ago

👍 - nice addition.

To your earlier point, yes, browsers attempt to do this today. In addition to the lack of interoperability, the process often breaks the functionality of complex pages. Of course a standard way to do it could help on the quality side of things as well as being interoperable.