Open scottaohara opened 2 years ago
Initial thoughts:
input list=foo
Authors MUST NOT use aria-activedescendant
, aria-autocomplete
, aria-expanded
, or aria-haspopup
on input
s with a list
attribute.
select
(combobox)
Authors MUST NOT use aria-activedescendant
, aria-autocomplete
, aria-expanded
, or aria-haspopup
, aria-readonly
attributes on a select
element with an implicit combobox
role, or a menu
role.
Note: aria-multiselectable
is not a supported attribute on role=combobox
, so the SHOULD NOT rule that the spec has for this now is unnecessary.
select
(listbox)
Authors MUST NOT use aria-activedescendant
, aria-haspopup
, aria-orientation
, aria-multiselectable
or aria-readonly
attributes on a select
element with an implicit listbox
role.
related #385, but is applicable here since ARIA 1.2 combobox pattern specifically moved away from using aria-owns
, and UA rendered listbox
elements won't respect aria-owns
for options in any way that would be useful to users.
re: aria-readonly
, the native HTML readonly
is not allowed on select
if rendered as a combobox
or listbox
. The state is not exposed when testing on macOS browsers. While a valid attribute for ARIA versions of these controls (unsure on actual support there either, though), it likely would not make sense on the native HTML versions.
aria-readonly is not output by JAWS+Firefox, JAWS+Chrome, NVDA+Firefox, NVDA+Chrome on HTML select multiple, select size>1, select size=1 (in form mode and in reading mode).
aria-readonly on elements with implicit role=listbox (select size >1 or select multiple) results in the following incorrect output in reading mode of the screenreaders in Chrome:
I was very surprised by the results because I assumed that I could use aria-readonly on HTML elements as well, at least on those whose implicit role is identical to the ARIA roles where aria-readonly is allowed. This does not seem to be the case. My question would be whether this is a peculiarity of the HTML element select and the aria-readonly attribute, or applies generally? To my knowledge, most ARIA attributes also work fine on HTML elements. I would be in favor of ARIA working as expected with HTML and am against introducing too many exceptions. This would mean that
aria-readonly is also not output by JAWS+Firefox, JAWS+Chrome, NVDA+Firefox, NVDA+Chrome on ARIA role=listbox (in form mode and in reading mode).
The bug in reading mode (element is not noticeable at all, not even in the element overview and quick navigation) occurs with role=listbox with aria-readonly=true in Firefox and Chrome. This would be an error of the screen reader, because currently aria-readonly is allowed.
Similarly, readonly is not output for role=combobox (https://github.com/FreedomScientific/VFO-standards-support/issues/481, https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/8763)
ARIA's
role=combobox
androle=listbox
have a number of supported, inherited, and withcombobox
, required attributes.With their current native HTML equivalents
select
,input list=foo
andselect size=1+
ormultiple
, many of these attributes that are necessary in the construction of fully custom ARIA equivalents either have no actual usefulness, or can conflict with with strong native semantics and functionality of the HTML elements.ARIA in HTML needs to specify which
aria-*
attributes are not valid for authors to use on these implicitcombobox
andlistbox
elements.This issue supersedes issue #277 and #364.