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Kashmiri short e in Arabic script #55

Open r12a opened 5 years ago

r12a commented 5 years ago

I've been making some notes on how to use Unicode to write the Kashmiri language in the arabic script, and wondered whether anyone reading this can help with a conundrum.

While it seems clear that for long eː Kashmiri uses ی [U+06CC ARABIC LETTER FARSI YEH] for initial and medial forms, and ے [U+06D2 ARABIC LETTER YEH BARREE] for final and isolate, it's not so clear how to write the short e.

Wikipedia uses ێ [U+06CE ARABIC LETTER YEH WITH SMALL V] throughout, but Daniels and LOC show a YEH with what looks like a combining breve above for the initial and medial forms, and ے [U+06D2 ARABIC LETTER YEH BARREE] with the same mark above for final and isolate. The (nastaliq) fonts i tried didn't do job of combining breve.

Can anyone clarify whether this is a missing character in Unicode, or else what should be used?

Iflaq12 commented 1 year ago

This 'ی' can be also used at the end eg. in case of 'سٲری'

r12a commented 1 year ago

What is the meaning of سٲری? Is it not a plural form?

Note that i believe that my original question is now answered (see the table of vowels at https://r12a.github.io/scripts/arab/ks#basicV), however a new question arose which can be found at https://r12a.github.io/scripts/arab/ks#final_e and concerns alternative placements of the inverted v diacritic.

Iflaq12 commented 1 year ago

The word 'سٲری' means 'Everyone' in Kashmiri.

Regarding 'شےٚ', I see this as a dictionary entry for this. But I dont find a word like 'شٚے'. IMG_20230411_175934 IMG_20230411_180633

r12a commented 8 months ago

Regarding 'شےٚ', I see this as a dictionary entry for this. But I dont find a word like 'شٚے'.

fwiw, I think that's actually شیٚے /ʃej/:

ش U+0634 ARABIC LETTER SHEEN ی U+06CC ARABIC LETTER FARSI YEH ٚ U+065A ARABIC VOWEL SIGN SMALL V ABOVE ے U+06D2 ARABIC LETTER YEH BARREE