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Success Criterion 1.1.1 - Non-text Content - Level A #16

Open JJdeGroot opened 5 months ago

JJdeGroot commented 5 months ago

Discussion:

MATF meeting on June 19, 2024 [Source](https://www.w3.org/2024/06/19-matf-minutes.html#t02) quintin: consider other dimensions of non-text content such as haptic feedback quintin: Just trying to help people think that mobile introduces new concepts like haptics I suppose something like haptics falls under the "multiple means" Julian: Emojis + Custom emojis: Would we want to offer guidance from a linguistic perspective? Quintin: Because intention is often the key communication, and I would argue to allow people to provide their own meaning in context Julian: It's about surrounding context Julian: Another thing is how to integrate emoji into body content - e.g. using them as bullet points Detlev: Around context specific: Normally surrounding context is self-providing. I imagine an emoji would be better if there was a prescriptive word That's what I live about :thumbs-up: for example - it's very well self described and non emotive like not live Joe: In terms of providing guidance - it should be separate from the main guidance Quintin: Agree great idea Joe_Humbert Quintin: We should also be careful about letting "hot topics" take control

Summary:

  1. Non-Text Content in Mobile:

    • Quintin: Emphasized the importance of considering other dimensions of non-text content, like haptic feedback, which is unique to mobile platforms. Highlighted that haptics might fall under the category of "multiple means" of providing information.
  2. Guidance on Emojis:

    • Julian: Raised the topic of offering guidance on the use of emojis and custom emojis from a linguistic perspective. Discussed the significance of surrounding context in interpreting emojis.
    • Quintin: Suggested that the intention behind emojis is crucial and argued for allowing users to provide their own meaning in context.
    • Julian: Discussed the integration of emojis into body content, such as using them as bullet points.
    • Detlev: Mentioned that the surrounding context usually provides meaning, but a prescriptive word might improve clarity. Used the example of the thumbs-up emoji as being self-descriptive and non-emotive.
    • Joe: Suggested that guidance on emojis should be separate from the main guidance, a suggestion agreed upon by Quintin.
    • Aashutosh: Supported Joe's idea.
    • Quintin: Cautioned about allowing "hot topics" to dominate discussions, emphasizing the need for balanced and comprehensive consideration of all relevant issues.