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Mongolian Layout Requirements
https://www.w3.org/International/mlreq/
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A Chinese standard available for reference #8

Open KrasnayaPloshchad opened 7 years ago

KrasnayaPloshchad commented 7 years ago

Recently TDF bugzilla have two reports based on GB/T 26233-2010 to require vertical left-to-right block direction for sheets and presentations, they are all refered the same resource: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=129563 This is an official standard for Mongolian typesetting, and I think this is an good resource if we want to write the requirements.

r12a commented 7 years ago

This looks interesting, but is only accessible to Chinese speakers – i can't even use an online translation service to get the gist of it. Is there a text version somewhere, or even better an english translation?

KrasnayaPloshchad commented 7 years ago

CC @jjgod

KrasnayaPloshchad commented 7 years ago

CC @lianghai

r12a commented 5 years ago

Still unable to read this document. :( It's not very long. I'm wondering whether someone would be able to, and would be allowed to, do a very quick translation and post it somewhere ??

himorin commented 5 years ago

draft version seems to be in chinaw3c site?? this is not image-ish PDF but can get text as text. (not checked difference yet. http://www.chinaw3c.org/usr/uploads/2015/04/939619036.pdf

r12a commented 5 years ago

Excellent. It's still a chore to get the English, but it does seem possible, thanks.

lianghai commented 5 years ago

You know, it seems @xfq has been translating small portions of it anyway… 😆 (I can take this up after the January UTC if there is still no translation by that time.)

xfq commented 5 years ago

Happy to volunteer, but it seems unlikely that I can complete the translation before the Chinese New Year...

xfq commented 5 years ago

Hmm, in http://www.gb688.cn/bzgk/gb/ I saw:

本系统所提供的电子文本仅供个人学习、研究之用,未经授权,禁止复制、发行、汇编、翻译或网络传播等,侵权必究。

which means:

The electronic text provided by this system is for personal study and research purposes only. Copy, distribute, compile, translate or disseminate via the Internet without authorization are forbidden.

So I'm not sure if I'm allowed to translate it. I'll try reaching out to the Guobiao people.

lianghai commented 5 years ago

Huh, as W3C does care about such legal stuff, I’ll just hold pn until you guys confirm that I can translate it.

suragch commented 5 years ago

I think it would be ok to write a summary of the key information rather than a word for word translation. I don't know if that would be to general to satisfy people's requirements, but it shouldn't break copyright laws as far as I know.

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xfq commented 5 years ago

I asked a CESI[1] staff and he thought it's OK to translate Guobiao standards if the translated document mentions that it's an unofficial translation. (Please note that this is not legal advice and CESI doesn't own the copyright of the standard. Standards Press of China owns it.)

Footnote:

[1] China Electronics Standardization Institute is responsible for organizing the development of Chinese national standards on information technology.

xfq commented 5 years ago

I created a repo for the translation: https://github.com/xfq/mongolian-gb

@lianghai I can add you as a collaborator of this repo if you're interested in helping with translation.

lianghai commented 5 years ago

@xfq Yes, please. I’ve scheduled this to next Monday (Feb 18).