Diffference between Distribute and GrantUse

[Jimflip]

Hi

Not clear to me what the difference between these two terms is.

GrantUse: definition: "To grant the use of the Asset to third parties" note: "This action enables the assignee to create policies for the use of the Asset for third parties. The nextPolicy is recommended to be agreed with the third party. Use of temporal constraints is recommended."

Distribution: definition: "To supply the Asset to third-parties." note: "It is recommended to use nextPolicy to express the allowable usages by third-parties."

The distinction seems very subtle and open to interpretation, and I'm not sure I will necessarily get it right.

Any advice appreciated. Thanks.

[riannella]

I think the intention of each is slightly different.

With "distribute", the intention is the assignee can supply the asset downstream (but the assignor could attach a nextPolicy)

With "grantUse", the intention is the assignee will create a Policy (with usage rules) that goes with the asset supplied downstream.

[benedictws]

So Renato, is "distributing" an asset with a nextPolicy duty equivalent to "grantUse"?

Ben

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I think the intention of each is slightly different.

With "distribute", the intention is the assignee can supply the asset downstream (but the assignor could attach a nextPolicy)

With "grantUse", the intention is the assignee will create a Policy (with usage rules) that goes with the asset supplied downstream.

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[nitmws]

Media businesses have an interest in both:

• "Distribute" means delivering a media asset without establishing an explicit licensing action. Example: a party receives images from a copyright holder and this party has a web system for registered customers. But such a customer needs to have - typically a global - licensing agreement with the copyright holder. The distributor may get images from 10 copyright holders and may have 500 customers, if a customer has a licensing agreement with 5 copyright holders the customer only sees images of them, not of all 10 copyright holders.

• "Grant Use" example: there is a media company running its main business in the US. They have contracts with media companies in France, Spain and Germany: the US company delivers media assets to these European partners and they get the permission to grant the use of them inside their countries. In practice: a customer of the French media company gets a license ageement from the local company and not from the US company. In ODRL terms: the role of the Assigner is handed over to another party.

[Jimflip]

Okay that all helps, and mostly makes sense to me.

So in the use case I'm interested in we have the following roles: Producer - The company that made the content Distributor - The company the Producer has granted the right to licence/GrantUse content to Publisher's, on the Producer's behalf. Publisher - The company that wants to Display the content

1. The Producer grants the permission to GrantUse to the Distributor.
2. The Distributor grants permission to Publisher to do some action.

How do we express what permissions the Distributor can grant to the Publisher, and assume we don't actually know which publisher we will grant rights to at this point of time, i.e. what they can offer Publishers. I'm assuming the Distributor is constrained in what they are allowed to grant the Publisher can do (for example the Action of the permission, i.e. Display in books only in the UK).

Thanks.

[Jimflip]

My assumption is the nextPolicy will refer to a policy of type Offer, and there it will describe the scope of what the Distributor can offer to Publishers.

[nitmws]

@Jimflip IPTC has the standard RightsML, a profile of ODRL. And IPTC has an example of such a Grant Use use case: http://dev.iptc.org/RightsML-Simple-Example-Duty-of-a-Third-Party

The nextPolicy defines 150 USD have to be paid, a simple case and of type Set. Actually the nextPolicy is a template for an ODRL/RightsML policy to be issued by the party having gotten the permission to GrantUse: it defines the ODLR action as Use and defines the duty bound to it, making a payment in this case. Look at this example:

• in the initial policy the Assignee is http://companyreg.com/gim/clientgroup2
• in the next policy the Assigner is http://companyreg.com/gim/clientgroup2

[Jimflip]

@nitmws Thanks, that link helps clarify.