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Predefined Counter Styles
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Rename Serbo-Croatian to Serbian #57

Closed kkogovsek closed 1 year ago

kkogovsek commented 1 year ago

Renaming counter style from Serbo-Croatian to Serbian in samples.

Croatian language doesn't use Cyrillic script and use of term Serbo-Croatian is outdated and not accurate.

+@Aldinco

Historically that name was used to refer to languages spoken in the former Yugoslavia but due to political as well as linguistic developments, there has been a shift towards recognising the distinct languages of the region. Today, it’s preferable to use the separate names of the languages in order to reflect their unique characteristics and cultural identities. I don’t think its wrong to keep it as is, I just think there is a more inclusive alternative.

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r12a commented 1 year ago

@kkogovsek thanks for suggesting this change. I agree that we should bring this up to date. The one thing i wanted to just check was whether the characters listed and their order still applies for Serbian users, without changes (ie. are Serbs still using the exact same alphabetic numbering as was used for Serbo-Croatian, given the shift in regional use and the progression of time). Do you know?

kkogovsek commented 1 year ago

It seems so to me. I found this mapping (although 10 years old) which is the same as what's in this document but I haven't seen anything disputing it or changing in the recent years.

The special case with Serbian is that it uses both Latin and Cyrillic so I'm wondering if it should be upper-serbian-cyrillic or is upper-serbian enough?

r12a commented 1 year ago

I believe that Serbian is written by default in cyrillic, so then i think it would be fine to call these styles upper-serbian. If we need to make a distinction between Serbian and Latin alphabets, then we can call the alternative upper-serbian-latin. Any objection?

r12a commented 1 year ago

I have a couple of things up in the air wrt the ready-made counter styles doc, and i'd like to just check where i'm up to before merging this. Hopefully, it won't take too long, as i'm working hard to bring that work to the top of my to do list.

r12a commented 1 year ago

Thanks for the PR !