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W3C Process Document
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a role should be a role, not a task #615

Closed TallTed closed 3 months ago

TallTed commented 2 years ago

_Originally posted by @TallTed in https://github.com/w3c/w3process/pull/614#discussion_r934935702_

Lines 1958-1959 of index.bs currently read something close to —

    Note: The Director and CEO have the role of
    assessing consensus within the Advisory Committee.

— or —

    Note: The Director, COO, and CEO have the role of
    assessing consensus within the Advisory Committee.

COO is probably being removed from that text, via an issue-less PR from @tantek, which brought me to notice that the rest of that sentence doesn't quite agree with itself.

As I said there, I think that have the role of assessing consensus should be either have the role of consensus assessor or perform the task of assessing consensus, because as it stands, the role they have is not a role, but a task, which makes little sense.

@tantek wanted to keep that PR-without-an-issue focused on the deletion of COO, so I'm creating a new issue for discussion of the rephrasing I feel was and will remain necessary, regardless of PR #614's fate.

frivoal commented 7 months ago

I would suggest removing that note altogether. Assessing consensus of the AC through AC Reviews is well defined, and does not rely singularly on the CEO. More over, I don't believe we really have any process that relies on assessing the consensus of the AC other than through AC Reviews.

css-meeting-bot commented 6 months ago

The Revising W3C Process CG just discussed #875, and agreed to the following:

The full IRC log of that discussion <plh> subtopic: #875
<plh> Github: https://github.com/w3c/w3process/pull/615
<plh> --> https://github.com/w3c/w3process/pull/875/files Remove note about AC consensus assessment
<plh> Florian: outside of AV review, we don't have a process
<plh> ... so having a note saying that the CEO does it seems confusing/unecessary
<plh> plh: I'd like to get feedback from Seth
<plh> ACTION: plh to check with the CEO
<plh> Florian: can we agree to do this unless Seth says anything?
<plh> plh: sure
<plh> Resolved: unless we receive a comment from the CEO, this will get merged