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W3C Process Document
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AC Review is missing a step to resolve formal objections #739

Closed jyasskin closed 9 months ago

jyasskin commented 1 year ago

The https://www.w3.org/Consortium/Process/Drafts/snapshots/2023-04#ACReview section describes how AC review works, and says that formal objections can happen and might be sustained, retracted, or overruled, but it never actually says to run the process in https://www.w3.org/Consortium/Process/Drafts/snapshots/2023-04#addressing-fo to make that sustaining or overruling happen.

fantasai commented 1 year ago

To the extent that this is unclear, it's unclear for all FOs. To the extent that it's defined, handling is defined by the deadlines specified here

Otherwise, upon concluding that consensus cannot be found, and no later than 90 days after the Formal Objection being registered, the Team must initiate formation of a W3C Council

We should probably improve the wording in #addressing-of to explicitly trigger FO handling upon registration.

css-meeting-bot commented 11 months ago

The Revising W3C Process CG just discussed Clarify that registering an FO triggers process to address it, and agreed to the following:

The full IRC log of that discussion <fantasai> Subtopic: Clarify that registering an FO triggers process to address it
<fantasai> github: https://github.com/w3c/w3process/issues/739
<fantasai> PR: https://github.com/w3c/w3process/pull/789
<florian> fantasai: this is about the fact that it wasn't clear that filing an FO triggers the process to handle FOs
<fantasai> Changes: https://github.com/w3c/w3process/pull/789/files
<florian> fantasai: so we added a sentence to make that more explicit
<fantasai> florian: Original text, if you read the process for handling them, it has a deadline from the registration date of the FO
<fantasai> florian: but didn't hook up explicitly from the FO filing section
<fantasai> -> https://www.w3.org/2023/Process-20230612/#registering-objections
<fantasai> TallTed: "filing" an FO doesn't trigger handling though
<fantasai> fantasai: process uses registration
<fantasai> florian: There is a difference between filing and registering, but once a thing has been filed, it will become registered at the end of the AC Review period
<fantasai> florian: Process describes deadlines relative to registration
<fantasai> TallTed: good enough
<fantasai> PROPOSAL: Merge PR 789
<TallTed> +1
<florian> +1
<fantasai> RESOLVED: Merge PR 789
fantasai commented 9 months ago

@jyasskin We added a sentence to more clearly link these concepts, let us know if it's acceptable?

https://github.com/w3c/w3process/commit/01bd3709a91e7fc7adcc7b2bb7e21a7eb9beeda4

jyasskin commented 9 months ago

Yep, that's good. Thanks!