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Allow Tim Berners-Lee to abstain in Unanimous Short Circuit votes #793

Open frivoal opened 11 months ago

frivoal commented 11 months ago

This removes him from the being on critical path for the Council's Unanimous Short Circuit votes, without affecting any other role he has as a TAG and Council member.

This is one possible solution to #784, with #791 and #792 being alternatives.

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frivoal commented 7 months ago

I guess that's the risk when you let a French speaker word things :) The French meaning of abstain is "omit to vote", while voting an explicit non-opinion would be called something like "voting blank". Now that I know English is different, I support @tantek 's proposed rephrasing.

frivoal commented 1 month ago

I suspect that this PR no longer serves a useful purpose given that https://github.com/w3c/process/pull/885 has been adopted. #791 or #792 may remain of interest, but I think we can close this one. Agenda+ to confirm.

frivoal commented 1 month ago

A few recent rephrasing suggestions no longer makes sense, since the underlying text has been changed by #885. I have rebased on top of the newest text, and included a simple provision that achieves the same effect. Feel free to propose improved rephrasings if you think that is useful, but personnaly, I don't seen the point: we are now allowing up to 20% of the council to abstain. Tim Berners-Lee can be part of these 20%. Regardless of phrasing, I don't find it useful to say that 20% may abstain if Timbl is among those who vote, but 20% + 1 person may abstain if Timbl is among those who abstain. That seems complicated for no good reason.

Therefore, my preference would be to close this as overtaken by events (https://github.com/w3c/process/pull/791, https://github.com/w3c/process/pull/792 remain relevant). But if others see value in this, I have no objection to finding better phrasing.