Open backwardok opened 3 years ago
Gregg suggested to use "WCAG 3" for the whole, and "guidelines" (when specifically about the individual guidelines), but be careful about saying "guidelines" to mean the whole thing.
Yes
I found in both reading and writing that it was confusing when it said ‘guidelines’. Did guidelines mean the WCAG 3 Guidelines or the guidelines within the WCAG3.
For example The guidelines will not contain normative material. The guidelines will contain normative provisions.
Are both true.
The first is the guidelines inside WCAG3 The second IS WCAG3.
So the suggestion was that when referring to WCAG3 we do not refer to them/it as “the guidelines” but rather as WCAG3
Best.
Gregg
On Jan 30, 2024, at 7:41 AM, Alastair Campbell @.***> wrote:
Gregg suggested to use "WCAG 3" or "guidelines", but be careful about saying "guidelines" to mean the whole thing.
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Disambiguating the term "guidelines" is also probably worthwhile, but I do want to mention that the intent behind this issue as filed is around the usage of the term "web" and suggesting something like the term "digital" to be more inclusive of mobile apps (if WCAG 3 is meant to cover mobile apps more intentionally)
Good point Have we settled on WCAG or are we still looking for a final name - including WAG or something - that looks like it might be different than just web content?
DAG (digital accessibility guidelines?)
PS if we wander outside of web — we should be aware that we open the scope of what we must address quite dramatically. Web apps are different from mobile apps. Our web guidelines cover a lot of ground in mobile apps — but there is a good bit more ground we have to cover if we wander outside of a browser (i.e. if we wander outside of a mobile view of web content)…
On Jan 30, 2024, at 2:10 PM, Diane Ko @.***> wrote: Disambiguating the term "guidelines" is also probably worthwhile, but I do want to mention that the intent behind this issue as filed is around the usage of the term "web" and suggesting something like the term "digital" to be more inclusive of mobile apps (if WCAG 3 is meant to cover mobile apps more intentionally)
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Have we settled on WCAG
Yes, and that was a huge fight. W3C Accessibility Guidelines, so "web content" dropped.
With teaching 2.x, I found that some people tripped over "guidelines" being the middle level of the hierarchy between Principal and Success Criteria. So I agree it something worth being mindful of, but not a big deal.
I think the next step is a short update to the introduction, taking account of Gregg's comment above.
Ah, noticing that the introduction in discussion is for WCAG 3 not the requirements, so tagging appropriately and removing from the project.
In the introduction of WCAG 3.0, there's the following content:
This language focuses specifically on web content, which makes it seem like it doesn't apply to something like a native mobile app. Even though WCAG 3.0 (and previous versions of WCAG) include guidelines and success criteria that apply to native apps as well, it's unclear from the language that this content is relevant to native applications.
There was a conversation in a recent accessibility meetup around what qualifies as "web content", where there wasn't consensus on whether or not "web content" includes a native app or not. In my opinion, web content relates to something that uses web technology to display content available on the internet in some way. Given that some native apps do not require access to the internet, they don't seem like they fall strictly under "web content".
Could the language be updated to better indicate that it can apply outside of web content as well, if that's the intention?
For example: