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3.2.5: Change on Request Understanding update #738

Closed jake-abma closed 4 weeks ago

jake-abma commented 5 years ago

https://www.w3.org/WAI/WCAG21/Understanding/change-on-request.html#benefits

The first benefit for 3.2.5 is:

Benefits

  • Individuals who are unable to detect changes of context or may not realize that the context has changed are less likely to become disoriented while navigating a site. For example:
    • individuals who are blind or have low vision may have difficulty knowing when a visual context change has occurred, such as a new window popping up. In this case, warning users of context changes in advance minimizes confusion when the user discovers that the back button no longer behaves as expected.

The text "are less likely to become disoriented" must be "are more likely to become disoriented"

patrickhlauke commented 5 years ago

I think it's correct as it currently is. This explains the benefit of following 3.2.5 for users. However, I can see how this could be slightly confusing, as you could also read it as "in general, these users are more confused. so, doing this will make them less confused"

jake-abma commented 5 years ago

I see, you can read it both ways. Relating to the title (way above) it makes sense, not sure if this relationship will always be made (not as stand alone / by me apparently :-) )

Making the sentence independent clear we may add: (if the change is initiated by the user)

So, instead of:

Individuals who are unable to detect changes of context or may not realize that the context has changed are less likely to become disoriented while navigating a site. For example:

Make it:

Individuals who are unable to detect changes of context or may not realize that the context has changed are less likely to become disoriented if the change is initiated by the user while navigating a site. For example:

alastc commented 5 years ago

How about:

Individuals who are unable to detect changes of context, or may not realize that the context has changed if they did not initiate the change are less likely to become disoriented while navigating a site.

In PR #754

jake-abma commented 5 years ago

Hi @alastc

Individuals who are unable to detect changes of context, or may not realize that the context has changed if they did not initiate the change are less likely to become disoriented while navigating a site.

This one has exactly the same problem, you tell here "people unable to detect the change are less likely to become disoriented" and "people not realizing that the context has changed are less likely to become disoriented" While it is more likely (if yout not checking the SC normative text at the top.

The part "less likely disoriented if they make the change themselves" is the key here

jake-abma commented 3 years ago

@alastc any feedback on my last comment? Any progress for this one in near future? Thx!

bruce-usab commented 2 months ago

Discussed on backlog call today. See PR, but TF settled on:

Individuals who may not realize that the context has changed if they did not initiate the change themselves are less likely to become disoriented while navigating a site.