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Facebook cookies and fingerprinting #28

Open tommls opened 4 years ago

tommls commented 4 years ago

Please just automatically deny all FB cookies and fingerprinting. OR Only allow first-party FB cookies IF FB is open in a tab AND person is actually doing something. AND IF FB tab is idle for >15 minutes, delete ALL cookies AND fingerprinting. In other words, limit FB cookies and fingerprinting as much as possible. Thank you, Tom

wseltzer commented 4 years ago

This group is discussing proposals for privacy-preserving measurement and ad delivery -- including mechanisms to limit fingerprinting and cross-site cookies.

We're not addressing specific companies. If you'd like to make a general proposal about cookie management and fingerprinting, please edit the issue.

tommls commented 4 years ago

?You have to address specific companies: Facebook, Google, et al.

Specific companies are completely responsible for the problems you're trying to solve.

If the specific companies don't change, no one will.

Do whatever you want.

Tom Lyczko IT Coordinator North Country MSO Mountain Lake Services 518-546-1122

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wseltzer commented 4 years ago

Many specific companies are participating -- and contributing to discussions of how we can improve privacy practices web-wide. Web standards have to be general, applicable to anyone based on objective criteria.

tommls commented 4 years ago

?Ah, web standards. I understand better now.

Not-so-well-designed web standards (e.g. allow anything to put a cookie anywhere) got us into some of the problems we have now.

I would only say the more specifically defined the better, and the more restrictive the better in terms of companies putting cookies and following us around.

AND a better discussion of privacy vs. confidentiality, which no one seems to understand:

Privacy is me to you...what I decide to give or tell you.

Confidentiality is you to me...NOT tattling, gossiping, selling, or disclosing ANYthing of which I give or tell you. Especially don't use it to make money or for personal/corporate gain even if you have it. This is what most people mean when they talk about privacy, only they don't know it.

Tom Lyczko IT Coordinator North Country MSO Mountain Lake Services 518-546-1122

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