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Web Annotation Working Group repository, see README for links to specs
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ActivityStreams / Annotation comparison #102

Closed azaroth42 closed 8 years ago

azaroth42 commented 8 years ago

The ActivityStreams vocabulary has many of the same basic features as ours, although the Annotation model adds significant value in the target area of SpecificResources. This issue exists to track the mapping, and provide input towards assessing if there is a common core of features.

After some clarification with James, a basic property mapping looks something like:

Class mapping:

Significant missing mappings:

jasnell commented 8 years ago

Note that as:accuracy is specifically defined for as:Place and represents the "fuzziness" of the geo coordinates.

azaroth42 commented 8 years ago

@jasnell Good point, don't want systems to infer that an Annotation is an as:Place. The use case here is for machine generated annotations, and wanting to provide some level of confidence in the assertion. So far we've treated it as too specific a requirement to have as in scope at this stage.

BigBlueHat commented 8 years ago

Per: http://www.w3.org/2015/11/18-annotation-irc#T16-12-33

RESOLUTION: defer defining mapping of Annotation terms with Activity Streams term ot later Note, currently continue with Annotation terms in use

Goal being to not block on AS2 delivery, but still plan to define a mapping separately from the Annotation document(s) CR's--most likely as a NOTE aimed at parties interested in mapping the two into the same space (where possible).

akuckartz commented 8 years ago

It is easy to forget ToDos when they are only mentioned in closed issues. Why not keep it open and set an appropriate milestone?

BigBlueHat commented 8 years ago

@akuckartz because our plate is too full already. :frowning: If/when we get the other bits done--or AS2 ships--then this will surface all on it's own. :smile:

azaroth42 commented 8 years ago

For reference, the Social WG F2F on Dec 1 will discuss taking AS to Rec or not: https://www.w3.org/wiki/Socialwg/2015-12-01#December_1

If the decision is not to take it through the process, then any alignment would be informational only, as we couldn't normatively refer to the terms. In the same way that we can't refer to Content in RDF. For due process, I'm reopening with this new information as justification. Will re-close after the above discussion.

@akuckartz @BigBlueHat is that okay with both of you?

azaroth42 commented 8 years ago

New information: Social Web WG have declared their intent to take AS2 through the process and to try and get all CR blocking issues at least in the queue over the next week or so. That's not to say that they will get them /resolved/, but the intent is to move quickly and steadily towards CR.

Proposal: Given that (and that we are not as far along as that even), I propose to leave this issue open, and to [continue to] normatively require AS2 Collections per #50 and #92.

BigBlueHat commented 8 years ago

Great news. :+1:

azaroth42 commented 8 years ago

I believe the outstanding action is to ensure that the vocab doc records the equivalencies between the terms that we've chosen to use and the AS terms, if they're different? Once that is done, we can close?

azaroth42 commented 8 years ago

Mark activity streams at risk as SWWG has not yet gone to CR.

Create a new version of the documents without AS in a branch

BigBlueHat commented 8 years ago

@azaroth42 also, this was marked as model long before we had the vocab document (or label).

Do we also need a note in the model document?

Just let me know.