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Tpac2023 charter comments #635

Closed plehegar closed 9 months ago

plehegar commented 10 months ago

This implements the items from our TPAC 2023 discussion.

This adds items on the REC-track, allows the WG to adopt items from incubation without rechartering, switch the group to living CR, update the liaisons.

Items that did not generate a change in the charter:

  1. WebCrypto curves, algorithms, and streaming. As long as it's part of maintaining the existing REC, we don't need to say more.
  2. Securer Contexts. Not sure what to add to the charter, if anything
  3. Permission API additions? As long as it's part of working on the current document, we don't need to say more.
  4. Cookie Layering. I didn't find anything to link to
  5. Fetch metadata still to be incorporated directly into Fetch. Waiting to see if there is a conclusion there so left the charter as-is.
mikewest commented 10 months ago

LGTM. Thanks for pulling this together!

  1. You added a link to the secure curves doc, which seems good enough to me as a demonstration of the claimed scope.

  2. For securer context, you could link to https://github.com/mikewest/securer-contexts. I'll try to get that moved to WICG.

  3. I agree that there's nothing to say here.

  4. https://github.com/httpwg/http-extensions/issues/2084, perhaps?

  5. I think leaving the charter as-is on this point is fine. I'll work it out with Anne separately, but I don't think it has an effect on our claimed scope either way.

johannhof commented 10 months ago

This looks great, any reason we need to include cookie layering here? Besides the WG note which will be important to the effort, I think we'll mostly handle execution in WHATWG.

mikewest commented 10 months ago

Hey @johannhof! I didn't realize that was the plan, but if it's going to be a WHATWG product, then we can certainly leave it out.

johannhof commented 10 months ago

I think so, but @annevk may have additional thoughts.

mikewest commented 10 months ago

🤷 I'm happy for it to go elsewhere, it just wasn't clear to me that it already had a home. :)

johannhof commented 10 months ago

Thanks for offering to host this work 💜

mikewest commented 10 months ago

Good point. The framing on those should be "These are incubations we should pay attention to and discuss, as they fall within the scope of security work the group is responsible for.", not "We're going to take these to REC." I imagine both would end up in HTML if they incubate successfully.

plehegar commented 10 months ago

btw, regarding Request-OTR, it wasn't clear to me that it should be a deliverable of webappsec or we should leave it to the IETF to handle.

cc @mnot

plehegar commented 10 months ago

I chose to move PECP and Unique Origin into the liaison section with WHATWG. An alternative would be to keep it as a potential work item but also commit to move it to the WHATWG HTML stream once mature (like we're doing for the Fetch metatada).

Waiting on @annevk to weigh in on cookie layering before adding it to the charter.

mnot commented 10 months ago

HTTP WG discussed Request-OTR at IETF117; general feeling was that WebAppSec (or perhaps Privacy CG, depending on how mature it is / how much implementer interest there is) was more appropriate. Feel free to loop us in for the HTTP aspects (e.g., header design).

mikewest commented 9 months ago

@plehegar, is there anything else to do here, or shall I merge this PR?

annevk commented 9 months ago

In case you were blocked on me. Cookie layering is essentially these things:

While I'm sure these changes will be discussed in a variety of venues, I don't think they need to be in scope of additional groups.

plehegar commented 9 months ago

Horizontal review of charter requested. follow at https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues/426