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Planning for a virtual TPAC meeting #35

Closed marcoscaceres closed 3 years ago

marcoscaceres commented 4 years ago

Editing task force already meets monthly?

inexorabletash commented 4 years ago

+1 to status updates on github - that seemed to work well. Also encourage as much async discussion and decision making as possible.

Re: Working sessions: I found the "breakouts" that emerged in Fukuoka to be very productive (one on general Storage, one on Indexed DB specifically). I'd like to capture that again, while being more inclusive: i.e. having them announced/scheduled ahead of time, and not competing for space/time/attention. So: gather a list, schedule them non-overlapping to take advantage of not having a tight F2F schedule, which addresses cross-pollination - apart from time zones, there won't be scheduling conflicts. (Other than cross-WG...)

garykac commented 4 years ago

[...] i.e. having them announced/scheduled ahead of time, and not competing for space/time/attention. So: gather a list, schedule them non-overlapping to take advantage of not having a tight F2F schedule

+1 +1 +1 +1 +1 I wanted to participate or listen in on more than one of the overlapping breakout sessions. The discussions also felt a bit siloed – I don't think any of the breakouts had remote participants and I don't recall a lot of scribing.

Is there anything preventing us from recording the video/audio for these sessions?

Also, I've always feel bad for the people dialing in remotely because it's often hard to follow the discussion (and side-discussions) happening in the room. It would be nice to use this opportunity to experiment with ways to improve remote participation that we could carry on once we start meeting in person again.

marcoscaceres commented 4 years ago

We discussed doing the following on the chair's call:

marcoscaceres commented 4 years ago

Fixed some typos above...

LJWatson commented 4 years ago

I've posted issues on the following repos:

marcoscaceres commented 4 years ago

Excellent, thanks @LJWatson!

inexorabletash commented 4 years ago

Do we want a session (or multiple sessions) on specs in incubation (e.g. in WICG) that are on track to graduating to the WebAppsWG soonish?

A non-comprehensive list of ones that I'm somewhat involved in, at different stages.

I'm certain there are many more.

FWIW, I've never been entirely clear on whether the WICG sessions at TPAC are intended to be a catch-all for anything in WICG, or a meta-discussion of the CG process itself, or both. We should avoid overlap, though! But the relevant part is at least any specs that are graduating from incubation and fit into the charter or would require rechartering.

marcoscaceres commented 4 years ago

Do we want a session (or multiple sessions) on specs in incubation (e.g. in WICG) that are on track to graduating to the WebAppsWG soonish? ... snip... FWIW, I've never been entirely clear on whether the WICG sessions at TPAC are intended to be a catch-all for anything in WICG, or a meta-discussion of the CG process itself, or both.

Can be both...

We should avoid overlap, though! But the relevant part is at least any specs that are graduating from incubation and fit into the charter or would require rechartering.

You are on point about requiring rechartering. It would be appropriate to have a "pitching" session to pitch new deliverables to working group members/implementers, as the working group needs to recharter to adopt those. Right now, only "Cookie Store" is in scope for the working group.

To adopt the new items, we would need interest from other browser vendors - and accompanying "intent to migrate".

However, it wouldn't be appropriate to have "working sessions" for WICG things as part of the WebAppsWG meeting... as actual technical work on the specs you listed should happen at the WICG until we adopt them. cc @wicg/chairs.

For sessions specifically for WICG items, they are best organized in: https://github.com/WICG/admin/issues/122

marcoscaceres commented 4 years ago

We set up a calendar: https://calendar.google.com/calendar/b/1?cid=Y19xaWlxZmJjMm9icXBvdXBwa2NiZDZyMXViMEBncm91cC5jYWxlbmRhci5nb29nbGUuY29t

marcoscaceres commented 4 years ago

Rules to have a meeting:

We can reuse much of https://www.w3.org/2002/ws/addr/minutes.html except to for the zakim bits... people can even use IRC if they want Zakim support.

People can appoint themselves as meeting chairs, if they would like... The WG Chairs and Team can drop into meeting as time allows, but please organize your own scribe.

marcoscaceres commented 4 years ago

Potentially the least horrible: https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2020&month=10&day=26&hour=21&min=0&sec=0&p1=152&p2=137&p3=179&p4=136&p5=33

siusin commented 4 years ago

TPAC 2020 Group Meetings:

I added a 2-hr event on 19 Oct (20 Oct those in AEDT and CST) to the WebApps WG TPAC calendar.

rniwa commented 4 years ago

I'm a bit confused here. When exactly is the meeting? Is it 2020-10-26T21:00:00Z?

siusin commented 4 years ago

@rniwa no, WebApps WG meeting will be on 2020-10-19 https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2020&month=10&day=19&hour=21&min=0&sec=0&p1=152&p2=137&p3=179&p4=136&p5=33

WG meetings will be in the week of 19-23 October to avoid conflict with the breakout sessions (week of 26 to 30 October).

siusin commented 3 years ago

Zoom Info -> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-archive/2020Sep/0628.html

@marcoscaceres @LJWatson any update on the meeting agenda page?