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TPAC 2023 - Call for topics #91

Closed marcoscaceres closed 5 months ago

marcoscaceres commented 1 year ago

TPAC 2023 will be held from 11 to 15 September 2023, with a main in-person hub at Melia Sevilla Hotel, in Sevilla, Spain.

tl;dr: please leave a comment below on your topic and how long you need (90 minute or 2-hour slot).

As last year, we are adapting our format to a hybrid mode and planning to build a dynamic meeting.

Here is the projected schedule (still to be confirmed):

The schedule of the week should be as follows:

In order to build a dynamic meeting to bring more cross participation and interactions, we will work this year with set slots. Each group will be able to ask for 90 minute and/or 2-hour slots.

humeranoor commented 1 year ago

Dear team, Here is our proposal for the breakout session on Wednesday 13th September:

Topic: Sustainability in the digital world Proposal type: open discussion Slot Duration: 90 min By: Cornelius Witt and Humera Noor Minhas Company: eyeo GmbH Website: https://eyeo.com/ Overview: When we speak about sustainability and climate change, we think about long-haul flights and solar panels. We do not realize that our day-to-day digital behavior, like mindless scrolling, dark vs bright backgrounds, and the online advertisements on the pages we visit contributes to our carbon footprint as well. This open discussion is about how we, the people on the web, can build products that are sustainable and positively impact the user behavior in a way that contributes to a greener environment.

LJWatson commented 1 year ago

Thank you @humeranoor, but this issue is for breakouts during the WebApps WG meetings (which will either be on the Mon/Tue or Thu/Fri), not for the Wednesday breakout sessions.

humeranoor commented 1 year ago

Ouch, my bad - and I was wondering why there is not much happening on this page 😬 Can you tell me where to submit proposals for Wednesday breakout sessions? I don't see anything here.

LJWatson commented 1 year ago

The official call doesn't usually go out until after registrations has opened AIRC, but it looks like there is a breakouts wiki page available. Also worth checking the official TPAC info from time to time too.

humeranoor commented 1 year ago

Thank you for sharing @LJWatson. This breakouts wiki page is new - I didn't know about it. Now I know :)

I'll wait for the registrations. Thanks a lot.

marcoscaceres commented 1 year ago

For Web Manifest, a few of us would like to discuss:

Cc @b1tr0t, @dmurph

marcoscaceres commented 1 year ago

Gamepad API folks would like to meet for 1-2 hours to chat about:

cabanier commented 1 year ago

Gamepad API folks would like to meet for 1-2 hours to chat about:

  • haptics
  • finishing the model for the spec
  • folding in more of the extension
  • Possibly other topics

The Immersive group will meet Monday, Tuesday and Friday according to the schedule. We can do a joint meeting any of those days.

tomayac commented 1 year ago

While we all agree on the OPFS, the vendors have differing opinions on dealing with files in the user-visible file system, like File Handling, drag and drop integration, and the various picker methods. Would it be worthwhile to discuss this again, especially in the light of macOS Sonoma's support for web apps?

dmurph commented 1 year ago

(copying from post in https://github.com/w3c/manifest/issues/1093)

@marcoscaceres confirmation on the list you wrote, those are all important for us to talk about. Can we get those topics on the schedule? I'm thinking:

Minor topics (15 mins each, if needed)

What do you think about those topics and goals? Any changes?

marcoscaceres commented 1 year ago

We should chat generally about the "Expectations of Editors" and what that means, and when those expectations are not met.

marcoscaceres commented 1 year ago

We should have a joint meeting with the i18n Folks about web manifest.

marcoscaceres commented 1 year ago

WebKit folks would like to again discuss a more efficient solution for Push notifications. This would be a follow up to what we discussed at last year's TPAC.

marcoscaceres commented 1 year ago

We should set set time aside for status on joint deliverables with DAS. Maybe @reillyeon and I could a quick presentation about what we plan on collaborating on?

@reillyeon, will you be around Monday afternoon from 1-2pm?

marcoscaceres commented 1 year ago

@cabanier, hey, let's book in 20 minutes on Tuesday late afternoon. That way Ben from Microsoft can join.

marcoscaceres commented 1 year ago

@tomayac, let's discuss your proposal on Tuesday and mix it in generally with the stuff that @dmurph listed above. Can you coordinate with him to make sure it's covered?

LJWatson commented 1 year ago

Everyone, last call for meeting topic/time for TPAC. If you haven't already, please post a comment here by end of day on Friday 4 August. Thanks.

tomayac commented 1 year ago

@dmurph, based on https://github.com/w3c/webappswg/issues/91#issuecomment-1660016533, what do you think of this plan, which builds upon your bullets from https://github.com/w3c/webappswg/issues/91#issuecomment-1642897091:

1 hour may be a stretch given the complexity of some of the topics.

reillyeon commented 1 year ago

We should set set time aside for status on joint deliverables with DAS. Maybe @reillyeon and I could a quick presentation about what we plan on collaborating on?

@reillyeon, will you be around Monday afternoon from 1-2pm?

Yes, that works for me.

dmurph commented 1 year ago

@tomayac I agree 1 hour might be a stretch. Hopefully I can help with prework here. Maybe we expect possible overflow of this one?

AdaRoseCannon commented 1 year ago

30-45 minutes to chat about haptics with Immersive Web WG would be great.

marcoscaceres commented 1 year ago

Ok, locking in 5pm on Tuesday to talk about haptics across both groups.

a-sully commented 1 year ago

@tomayac shall we split this discussion off into a separate session on file system? There's enough material on that topic alone to cover an hour or more. And that would give the rest of your proposed agenda room to breath :)

a-sully commented 1 year ago

....though where exactly to talk about file system is up for discussion... Last year we didn't talk about it with the WAWG, but had separate whatwg and WICG discussions for the respective whatwg and WICG halves of the spec... but the WAWG is arguably the place this should be discussed anyways (as @tomayac mentioned in https://github.com/w3c/webappswg/issues/91#issuecomment-1640138703)

Open to suggestions from the organizers!

diekus commented 1 year ago

30-45 minutes to chat about Web Install API, declarative way of installing web apps. Also adding AttributionInfo to the mix since it is related.

LJWatson commented 1 year ago

@Dikis this the same as @tomayac mentioned in https://github.com/w3c/webappswg/issues/91#ref-issue-1831631950?

LJWatson commented 1 year ago

We've posted the WebApps TPAC 2023 agenda.

We have a crammed schedule for both days. We may be able to fit one or two more things in, but it'll mean running a really tight schedule the whole time.

Looking forward to catching up with everyone then 😊

tomayac commented 1 year ago

@Dikis this the same as @tomayac mentioned in #91 (reference)?

(Correcting @Dikis to @diekus.)

LJWatson commented 1 year ago

(Correcting...

Oops! I'm sorry. My bad. Thanks for catching that.

diekus commented 1 year ago

Hola @LJWatson! Yes, I believe it is the declarative install topic mentioned above. I'd like to add Attribution Info API to the chat, shouldn't take much longer!

a-sully commented 1 year ago

Following up on https://github.com/w3c/webappswg/issues/91#issuecomment-1664714723 - I'd like to discuss the APIs @tomayac listed in that comment (relating to File System) with this working group. 30 minutes should be sufficient if we limit the scope to just these few topics. Any chance we can make room on the agenda? Thanks!

marcoscaceres commented 5 months ago

closing in prep to start planning for 2024