Closed khushalsagar closed 1 year ago
Hi @khushalsagar we're taking a look at this today and realized there are 2 reviews that are both referencing the same explainer. Can you give a bit more context on why these are 2 separate review requests? For the disabling we're slightly concern that disabling a browser feature like this might cause user confusion. We're more positive on #834 where being able to detect the presence of a navigation animation seems fairly benign. Have you discussed this user confusion issue?
Can you give a bit more context on why these are 2 separate review requests?
Sure. We found 2 separate problems with choosing between a default transition designed by the UA vs a custom transition designed by the author:
There are some cases where the browser UX is such that it's not possible for the site to customize the transition. Imagine a film strip type visualization of the navigation history. For these cases, the UA transition always wins and we just need a hook to inform the site of this choice. #834 handles that.
There are some cases where if the author designs a transition, it should be given preference over the default UA transition. Easiest example would be clicking the back button on a desktop browser. It makes sense for the custom transition on the site to win instead of overriding it with a UA transition. But there's currently no way for the site to indicate to the browser that it has designed a custom transition for a navigation. Such use-cases needs a different API (which this issue is about).
That said, I heard similar feedback against disabling any existing browser UX (like transitions on swipe gestures) that users are accustomed to at HTML WG. So this proposal needs more refinement. I can close it for now and reopen with more details. Does that sound reasonable?
Until there is a proposal here, browsers will have to be conservative about which cases have a UA transition (which overrides a site's custom transition). Since #834 will let sites detect these cases, it will be sufficient to not cause breakage because of "double transitions".
Ok thank you @khushalsagar for that reply and explanation. Much appreciated. I think it does make sense to close this for now and let's re-open when you have a refined proposal. As noted, we're happy with #834. Thanks! ✨
I'm requesting a TAG review for an API to disable UA transitions for same-document navigations.
Smooth visual transitions as users navigate on the web can lower cognitive load by helping users stay in context. It can also provide a visual cue about the destination before initiating the navigation. Both site authors and user-agents (UAs) add visual transitions to their navigations for these use-cases.
However, the user experience is bad if both the site author and the UA add these transitions: the transitions may conflict and cause confusion for the user. The goal of this proposal is to avoid such cases to ensure only one visual transition is executed at a time.
Further details:
The CSSWG issue for discussing this proposal is https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/8747.
If an author chooses to disable UA transitions for a subset of navigations, they will need to use the API proposed at https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/834 to detect whether a UA transition was executed for a navigation.
We'd prefer the TAG provide feedback as (please delete all but the desired option):
💬 leave review feedback as a comment in this issue and @-notify khushalsagar.