Prepaid Plan / Bill period duration missing

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago

When switching to "Prepaid Plan", there is no option to set duration of billing 
period. 

Bill period bar just shows loading status.

I'm using the newest version: RC2

Samsung Spica I5700. Android 2.1

Original issue reported on code.google.com by chr.kri...@gmail.com on 11 Nov 2010 at 11:28

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago

please explain, how your prepaid but periodic plan works.
i disabled it, because i did not know how to imagine/handle it.

Original comment by felix.bechstein on 11 Nov 2010 at 6:51

Changed state: NeedMoreInfo
Added labels: Component-Logic, Product-CallMeter-3

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago

Hi, I think it is easier to explain in German...

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Ich nutze Simyo, also 9Cent pro Minute, 9Cent pro SMS und 24Cent pro MB. 
Normalerweise lade ich mein Guthaben einmal im Monat (am 01.) mit 15€ auf.

Wenn ich auf Prepaid Abrechung stelle und dann im Punkt Abrechnungszeitraum 
beispielsweise als Starttermin den 01.11 angebe und 15€ Guthaben eintrage, 
erscheint in der Hauptanzeige folgendes:

Erster Rechnungstag    1/11/2010
                       15€
(Ein Ladebalken der lädt)

^^ Ich dachte das liegt daran dass keine Dauer definiert werden kann? Sieht 
halt etwas seltsam aus. Ich möchte halt dennoch sehen, wie weit der 
Abrechnugszeitraum fortgeschritten ist...

Original comment by chr.kri...@gmail.com on 11 Nov 2010 at 9:35

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago

Hello again, I'm not sure whether you can write in German here? I just want to 
explain again what I had intended:

Prepaidplan is active! My first plan is the "Bill Period", i want to set the 
first day and also the length of the billing period. Balance should also be set 
to 15€ for example.

At the moment there is no possibility to set the length, so as the result you 
just see a status bar which is loading all the time.

When i try to set costs (0,09€) for "call out", these costs are not 
abstracted to my balance set in "Bill period". Instead i see: (0.09€) + 15€

Original comment by chr.kri...@gmail.com on 12 Nov 2010 at 12:10

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago

i can, but i need some more time to think about it.
maybe i messed this prepaid thing up, while adding some features to the limit 
type "cost".
please be patient.

and:

i just do not know, how you would handle the seconds bill period, with prepaid 
plans without setting the balance.

Original comment by felix.bechstein on 12 Nov 2010 at 12:24

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago

i'm not sure if i undesrtand your question correctly...

the bill period should only show the balance available for the actual month 
(15€/month). Status bar should show how far this period is advanced.

the costs of sms out and call out and data in/out should be abstracted to the 
balance set in bill period. For exampe (1 call and 1 sms each 9cent) so Balance 
should be 14,82€.

If its ok, i can send you a screenshot with the output i would like to have.

Original comment by chr.kri...@gmail.com on 12 Nov 2010 at 12:38

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago

Here's the picture, i edited the billing period with paint. Right now i just 
see the summary of the costs. Perfect would be to see the costs abstracted to 
my balance like in this picture.

Original comment by chr.kri...@gmail.com on 12 Nov 2010 at 12:47

Attachments:

Prepaid.png

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago

well. i sure do understand how it should look like.

BUT: what should cm do on end of the billing period?
what should happen with not used balance?

Original comment by felix.bechstein on 17 Nov 2010 at 6:15

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago

on the end of the billing period i think there should be two options:

1. transfer the balance left to next month
2. just completely restart calculation (minutes/sms/mms/data back to 0) and a 
new balance.

Original comment by chr.kri...@gmail.com on 17 Nov 2010 at 7:31

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago

ok.

1. will lead us to a bill period with a limit of 15€
2. will lead us to a bill period with a limit of 15€ + rollover of balance.

1. is planed, 2. is addressed in issue #100, but until now, i do not know, how 
to handle it.

Original comment by felix.bechstein on 18 Nov 2010 at 6:26

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago

I need option 2.

When the bill period (ex. 1 month) is reached, the balance has to be restarted 
to prepaid cost and the minutes/sms/data start from zero for next billing 
period.

This is usual in Argentina (where i'm from), the bill has a fix cost every 
month (and the balance is restarted every month).

Thanks Felix for this wonderfull app.

Original comment by alvarezr...@gmail.com on 29 Nov 2010 at 10:40

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago

I have the same problem: "First day of your bill" keeps animating (loading). I 
use prepaid, limit type: units, Limit: 120,  Mode of billing: 180/1

Original comment by zerfiri...@gmail.com on 28 Dec 2010 at 4:59

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago

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GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago

Is there any progress? This problem really is annoying...

Original comment by chr.kri...@gmail.com on 11 Jan 2011 at 7:19

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago

Hi. 
I need this too...

Status say "NeedMoreInfo". What else do you need Felix? Please ask anything you 
need todo fix these, i'll try to answer ASAP.

Thanks

Original comment by alvarezr...@gmail.com on 11 Jan 2011 at 9:56

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago

i still do not know, how to handle it.
and currently is no spare time left to think about it.

esp. rolling over balances (issue #100) is not that easy..

Original comment by felix.bechstein on 12 Jan 2011 at 5:43

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago

Thanks for your quick answer.

Is it posible to add only the option 1 now and leave the rollover of balance 
for later?

Original comment by alvarezr...@gmail.com on 12 Jan 2011 at 11:12

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago

you could set a limit for outgoging calls/messages with type cost already.
you might need to merge the plans like the preconfigured merging ruleset.
this will lead to a hard reset after eg 1month of your balance.

Original comment by felix.bechstein on 12 Jan 2011 at 4:32

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago

Hi, 
I have a rather complex plan an can't figure out how to describe it in CM3.
I have monthly plan vhere first 200 mins to all networks are free. When these 
mins are over I have additional 1000 mins to home network, but pay per minute 
for calls to other networks. If I talk out all the free minutes I pay per 
minute for home and other networks. The situationis pretty much the same for 
SMS and MMS. 
Can someone (i guess Felix is busy) give some tips how to describe that plan in 
CM3?

Original comment by antra...@gmail.com on 24 Jan 2011 at 8:34

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago

Sorry for using this thread, can anyone explain me how I can use this app to 
the current period? My month always start the 9. In every month. Is there a way 
to set that?

Thanks

Original comment by refug...@gmail.com on 21 Feb 2011 at 6:43

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago

Issue 410 has been merged into this issue.

Original comment by f...@ub0r.de on 9 Apr 2011 at 3:50

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago

from 17.5. on i'll have this issue to. making it a major issue :D

but until now, i got no idea how to handle these prepaid but still periodic 
plans.

the problem is, that in cm3 there is nothing like balance.
cm is just summing up cost produced by every log item.

this stops me from fixing this and the roll over issue..

any ideas?

Original comment by f...@ub0r.de on 9 Apr 2011 at 3:54

Added labels: Priority-Critical
Removed labels: Priority-Medium

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago

My advice: add an option to prepaid plan to delete the balance every month (or 
a custom period) and put a new balance predefined by the user.

You can blank the balance simply adding a log totalling the $ at this moment.

That way we can use prepaid plans with limited period of time for the money 
pay. And then, another bill will begin every month.

What do you think?

Original comment by alvarezr...@gmail.com on 9 Apr 2011 at 4:21

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago

Issue 453 has been merged into this issue.

Original comment by f...@ub0r.de on 12 May 2011 at 5:47

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago

Hi Felix,

Any news about this?

Original comment by alvarezr...@gmail.com on 13 May 2011 at 2:00

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago

nope.
i currently have no time to fix these complex issues..

Original comment by f...@ub0r.de on 13 May 2011 at 5:07

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago

Issue 692 has been merged into this issue.

Original comment by f...@ub0r.de on 13 May 2012 at 10:32

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago

Felix, I think that Issue 692 has nothing to do with this one :S

Original comment by alvarezr...@gmail.com on 13 May 2012 at 4:23

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago

it has:

if you would be able to select 1d bill period, you would be perfectly fine. but 
the current prepaid logic prevents that.

Original comment by f...@ub0r.de on 13 May 2012 at 7:43

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago

Well, I've  thought on that solution, but its a bit rare for the scenario 
explained on issue 692 (so then I thought that you had choosen the wrong issue 
to merge). Of course, I understand that only you by yourself can't make the 
best solutions for everybody.

By the way, any news about this issue? :P

Thanks for your answer.

Original comment by alvarezr...@gmail.com on 13 May 2012 at 8:12

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago

Records should be filtered by date for this purpose and others purposes: like 
roaming and free numbers.

So, a rule can match a record between a start date and, an optional, end date.
These dates should come in groups, keep adding dates to the group as far as a 
new pack are buy for historical purposes.

numbers _id:5:#:_gid:2:#:_number:3865370710:#:_dgid:4:#:
dates _id:1:#:_gid:1:#:_start:1287927116450:#:_end:1287927116450:#:
dates _id:2:#:_gid:2:#:_start:1287927116450:#:_end:1287927116450:#:
dates _id:3:#:_gid:3:#:_start:1287927116450:#:_end:1287927116450:#:
dates _id:4:#:_gid:4:#:_start:1287927116450:#:_end:1287927116450:#:
datesgroup _id:1:#:_name:30 SMS for 7 days Pack:#:
datesgroup _id:2:#:_name:All weekend free calls for $12:#:
datesgroup _id:3:#:_name:I was roaming:#:
datesgroup _id:4:#:_name:Not always my call-for-free number:#:

I will try not to hijack the thread to explain that a free number can be 
changed 4 times in a month with no charge, but is easy to understand that a 
same number can be free sometimes an sometimes not. Was free from the day you 
let your carrier know, and so should be in CM3.

Something similar happens when you are roaming, CM3 don't know you are roaming, 
but you know, so you can add a timespan to "I was roaming" group to let CM3 
know ;)

And finally you buy a "pack/bundle" at some date in the past, let CM3 know 
adding a timespan across "30 SMS for 7 days Pack" group.

A rule must have a "forever" default.

A plan should show the latest timespan in a group if intended to show "Pack" 
progress, or add the "30 SMS" to the current "50 SMS" limit to get a a "70 SMS" 
limit as I manually did every time I buy a SMS pack.

Here are some Pack examples:
http://www.movistar.com.ar/planes/control/personaliza-tu-plan/
At the start: Recurring packages: Not a concern
At the end: Eventual packages: Buy Packages with your credit

http://www.personal.com.ar/packs/llamadas2/abono_fijo.html#tablaPack

Original comment by nilf...@gmail.com on 22 Oct 2012 at 6:30

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago

Please set the possibility to change date mode

Original comment by terrasic...@gmail.com on 1 Feb 2013 at 7:39

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago

Issue 816 has been merged into this issue.

Original comment by f...@ub0r.de on 19 Feb 2013 at 5:23

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago

Issue 841 has been merged into this issue.

Original comment by f...@ub0r.de on 30 Mar 2013 at 10:52

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago

I'm for: 
when prepaid period ends, all unused forfeited, 
new period starts with new cost/new value

which is how it works now, EXCEPT, can't set bill period when in prepaid mode

I use the workaround of:
disable 'prepaid', edit bill period, set duration, re-enable 'prepaid'

so, from my POV, I'd like to see ability of entering /editing of plan duration 
on both prepaid/not_prepaid

from my POV, if 'bill period' duration was editable when 'prepaid', that would 
do

thanks

Original comment by voytek.e...@gmail.com on 15 Apr 2013 at 4:24

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago

My cell phone plan provides for the data connection I have to pay in advance 
€ 1 per 50MB, how can I set the cost of data traffic?

Original comment by amodeodo...@gmail.com on 1 May 2013 at 11:32

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago

Hi, you can set the charging per second? When set to the prepaid plan you can 
set options on a weekly or monthly!
You can change the app setting for a prepaid plan expenses dovite to the 
activation of promotional offers are deducted from the credit? When you set a 
rule and select the option to create a target registers to a certain sim 
disappears!

Original comment by amodeodo...@gmail.com on 2 May 2013 at 7:33

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago

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GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago

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GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago

You need to take it out from Prepaid, change period, change back to Prepaid

When in Prepaid, you can not access period lenght

Hth

Original comment by voytek.e...@gmail.com on 27 Aug 2013 at 9:11

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago

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GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago

Bill period setting is missing, so I can't set a one week billing period. 
Please fix it asap!

Original comment by enrico.v...@blaublum.eu on 31 Jan 2014 at 9:34

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago

try setting NOT prepaid,
set period,
set back to prepaid.

Original comment by voytek.e...@gmail.com on 31 Jan 2014 at 11:07

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago

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GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago

REMOVE ME

Original comment by medifra...@gmail.com on 31 Jan 2014 at 3:29

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago

Guys, Check if you "starred" this issue earlier. Only you can remove yourself 
from the notification list. 
Nobody had added you.

Original comment by f...@ub0r.de on 2 Feb 2014 at 3:30

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago

Unless someone mistyped his email address to mine, I have no idea what this 
thread is about. Patrick

Comment #45 on issue 315 by f...@ub0r.de: Prepaid Plan / Bill period duration 
missing
http://code.google.com/p/callmeter/issues/detail?id=315

Guys, Check if you "starred" this issue earlier. Only you can remove yourself 
from the notification list.
Nobody had added you.

Original comment by p.mca...@gmail.com on 2 Feb 2014 at 7:45

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago

migrated to: https://github.com/felixb/callmeter/issues/3

Original comment by f...@ub0r.de on 31 Aug 2014 at 9:08

Changed state: Done

waasilzamri / callmeter

Prepaid Plan / Bill period duration missing #315