Honor Among Thieves Talent Mechanics

[where-fore]

Is this talent working as intended?

• [x] Does it have a 1 second internal cooldown? Yup!
• [x] Does it trigger only from party members, even in a raid? Yup!
• [x] Does it trigger from your own crits? Solo or in a group or raid? Yup! Still following the internal cooldown, of course.

[where-fore]

Thanks to Ram for some testing on 6/25, ver 3.4.0.44301: Honor Among Thieves generates a combo point on your current target if a healer in your party crits a heal, even out of combat. This lets you build 5 combo points - a full snapshotted Slice and Dice, completely out of combat. The combo points drop upon swapping specs.

[vigo2]

At least for soloing, ICD is around 1s.

This toon doesn't have Ruthlessness, so "... gains Slice and Dice" implies 0 CP. The two ability crits at 21:58.034 and 21:59.068 are 1034ms apart, and should yield 3 CP (Hemorrhage plus two HAT procs), but the subsequent SnD only lasts ~12s (2 CP, no talents/glyphs).

Here, the subsequent SnD lasts ~21s (5 CP), but the WP crits at 7:24.833 and 7:25.801 are only 968ms apart, so only 4 CPs were expected.

HAT seems to proc from any non-auto crits. Quoting from Wowhead:

After extensive testing to verify my initial impressions, I've discovered that HaT WILL proc (on crits) from all of the following:

• Poisons (Verified: Instant Poison and Wound Poison)
• Weapon proc enchants (Verified: Fiery, Crusader heals, Deathfrost, Lifestealing heals)
• On-hit effects (Verified: Mark of Conquest heals, Lightning Capacitor (just for fun, since poison crits proc it))
• On-use effects (Verified: Goblin Dragon Gun, Goblin Rocket Launcher)
• Buffs: (Verified: Thorns, Earth Shield heals) Last edited by specterk on 2009/11/18 (Patch 3.2.2)

I've verified poisons, Fiery, Romulo's, Fist's of Fury, and Rupture ticks, so this sounds spot on. After an Eviscerate crit, you start with 1 CP.