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Extra Attacks Mechanics #8

Open where-fore opened 2 years ago

where-fore commented 2 years ago

To be more specific:

where-fore commented 2 years ago

Thanks to Ram for confirming, on on 6/24, ver 3.4.0.44301, many things for us. Log

In this first snippet we can confirm a few things: -Extra attacks (in this example, Hand of Justice) originating from the off hand proc an attack with the main hand. -Extra attacks do not reset either swing timers

In this second snippet we can confirm that Hack and Slash procs originating from the off hand proc an attack with the main hand.

date     time          event      title    damage    rawDamage
6/24 23:26:07.161  SWING_DAMAGE   | 0 |    | 959 |    | 563 |

Snippet 1 6/24 23:26:07.161 SWING_DAMAGE | 0 | 959 | 563 6/24 23:26:07.161 SWING_DAMAGE_LANDED | 0 | 959 | 563 6/24 23:26:07.734 SWING_DAMAGE | 0 | 202 | 244 6/24 23:26:07.734 SWING_DAMAGE_LANDED | 0 | 202 | 244 6/24 23:26:08.695 SPELL_AURA_REMOVED | Perceived Weakness |   |   6/24 23:26:09.014 SWING_DAMAGE | 0 | 390 | 241 6/24 23:26:09.014 SWING_DAMAGE_LANDED | 0 | 390 | 241 6/24 23:26:09.014 SPELL_EXTRA_ATTACKS | Hand of Justice |   |   6/24 23:26:09.014 SWING_DAMAGE | 0 | 494 | 627 6/24 23:26:09.014 SWING_DAMAGE_LANDED | 0 | 494 | 627 6/24 23:26:09.468 SPELL_EXTRA_ATTACKS | Hack and Slash |   |   6/24 23:26:09.468 SWING_DAMAGE | 0 | 516 | 655 6/24 23:26:09.468 SWING_DAMAGE | 0 | 497 | 631 6/24 23:26:09.468 SWING_DAMAGE_LANDED | 0 | 516 | 655 6/24 23:26:09.468 SWING_DAMAGE_LANDED | 0 | 497 | 631 6/24 23:26:10.295 SWING_DAMAGE | 0 | 436 | 269 6/24 23:26:10.295 SWING_DAMAGE_LANDED | 0 | 436 | 269 6/24 23:26:10.895 SPELL_CAST_SUCCESS | Sinister Strike | 1419 | 2.3022 6/24 23:26:10.895 SPELL_DAMAGE | Sinister Strike | 1419 | 1.1968 6/24 23:26:10.909 SPELL_CAST_FAILED | Sinister Strike |   |   6/24 23:26:11.576 SWING_DAMAGE | 0 | 209 | 265 6/24 23:26:11.576 SWING_DAMAGE_LANDED | 0 | 209 | 265 6/24 23:26:11.776 SWING_DAMAGE | 0 | 470 | 597 6/24 23:26:11.776 SWING_DAMAGE_LANDED | 0 | 470 | 597

Snippet 2 6/24 23:27:36.274 SPELL_EXTRA_ATTACKS | Hack and Slash |   |   6/24 23:27:36.274 SWING_DAMAGE | 0 | 389 | 240 6/24 23:27:36.274 SWING_DAMAGE | 0 | 475 | 603 6/24 23:27:36.274 SWING_DAMAGE_LANDED | 0 | 389 | 240 6/24 23:27:36.274 SWING_DAMAGE_LANDED | 0 | 475 | 603

where-fore commented 1 year ago

Re: Can Rupture trigger Hack and Slash? A short test on 3/22/23, game ver. 3.4.1.48632 (PTR), found that no, Rupture cannot trigger Hack and Slash.

Attacking a dummy at an angle where you cannot auto attack, and taking care to only cast Sinister Strikes to build combo points post-ticks, found 200 Rupture ticks without a corresponding Hack and Slash proc, a 0.0035% chance if it was possible. Only 22 applications however did not lead a meaningful conclusion on whether the application can proc Hack and Slash.

As a side note, 110 hits of Sinister Strike found 4 procs of Hack and Slash, about on par with expected 5%.

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