Unable to update Mollify 1.8.6.1

[GoogleCodeExporter]

I can't update my mollify to 1.8.6.1 by just copy/paste the "index.html" and 
"configuration.php" to their corresponding locations.

It works when i copy/paste mollify 1.8.6.1 files over my old installation and 
then add the configuration.php and index.html file.

It doesen't work when i delete all the files, copy mollify 1.8.6.1 files and 
adding my old configuration index.html and configuration.php.

It shows me white blank page and nothing else.

So something has changed a lot in new mollify that my old configuration seems 
to be missing. I would like to know what that is? What could affect my settings?

Original issue reported on code.google.com by Logic...@gmail.com on 7 Jan 2012 at 9:25

[GoogleCodeExporter]

If you are updating from 1.8.6, you can simply copy folder "Share" from the 
backend/plugins. This is the only difference in 1.8.6.1.

I'll check if there's some error in the package, but you can always check the 
PHP error log to see why it shows blank page.

Original comment by samuli.j...@gmail.com on 7 Jan 2012 at 11:12

[GoogleCodeExporter]

No, not update Mollify FROM 1.8.6.1 but unable to update mollify TO 1.8.6.1.
There are some significant differences when i compare it with my last version 
1.8.5.3.
So basically i can't update FROM 1.8.5.3 TO 1.8.6.1 normally, like i described 
above.

I managed to get it so far, that it get's the log in screen and i can log in.
Now there are other issues.
I can upload a file named, for example, "jõulud.xls", it uploads normally, all 
the letters are there, but when i click on it, i can't get the Action window to 
pop up, it says "Unknown Error". So basically i can't do anything with the file 
uploaded that way which has "bad letters" in it.

If i keep my old installation and copy/paste the new installation over it and 
later just add the old index.html and configuration.php files then that error 
does not occur. So something has to be different with Mollify, not with the 
configuration.php or index.html. I wouldn't mind changing my configuration of 
these files, i would just like to know what do i have to change?

People using my server with Mollify script are getting rather upset that 
nothing is working well or with bugs. I may need to consider buying one of the 
commercial scripts, do you have anything good to recommend?

Original comment by Logic...@gmail.com on 8 Jan 2012 at 10:35

[GoogleCodeExporter]

Ok, i narrowed it down. The bug seems to be in "FileViewerEditor". I couldn't 
open other files as well which had the extensions in FileViewerEditor. When i 
disabled the plugin, everything was working fine.
Trying to understand whats going on, any help would be appreciated.

Original comment by Logic...@gmail.com on 8 Jan 2012 at 10:53

[GoogleCodeExporter]

I'm sorry if you are not satisfied, you are free to choose some other script.

But if you had read the change log 
(http://code.google.com/p/mollify/wiki/ChangeLog), it says that 
FileViewerPlugin has been renamed in version 1.8.2. Or had you even read the 
error log, you could have solved this in 5 min.

Original comment by samuli.j...@gmail.com on 8 Jan 2012 at 11:00

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[GoogleCodeExporter]

Alright, never mind, i just forgot that i needed to add the FileViewerEditor 
plugin sub-plugins again, like zoho, since these are not included in the full 
update. These caused all the problems. Also i need to have the 
"convert_filenames" => "CP1252",
activated in order for everything to work properly.

Original comment by Logic...@gmail.com on 8 Jan 2012 at 11:06

[GoogleCodeExporter]

About the errorlog, i would read it, but unfortunately there are some issues 
with it, i can't seem to enable the logs. Many people have observed this issue 
with my server and can't figure out why i don't see any logs. Under windows 
it's different. That's why it's hard for me to solve these problems, I'm like 
blindfolded and have to solve problems with trial and error all the time. I 
could have told you that, but i figured it would be easier to ask you if there 
were any big changes and exactly where, I'm sorry if it offended you.

Original comment by Logic...@gmail.com on 8 Jan 2012 at 2:14

[GoogleCodeExporter]

I don't mind the questions, really. I've answered every single question and 
issue there has been, with a manner that makes many commercial support come 
second. So I'm trying, really am.

Offended is not the right word, frustrated might be more correct. I'm doing 
this on my own with no help from anyone, on my free time (and there is not 
much), and for free. (Sure there is commercial license, but somehow only very 
very few thinks their business is commercial, so in practice this is all for 
free).

What I'd really like to get in return is some kind of appreciation, perhaps 
some understanding that some things may not be perfect (but like I said, I'm 
doing my best), but most importantly I'd like to see constructive attitude, 
maybe even some kind of efforts of giving out the helping hand. Unfortunately 
every now and then there are users who don't have these, expect everything here 
and now, for free of course, complaining that nothing works, why don't you do 
this and that, if you don't do this and that I'll choose some other product and 
so on. These are the cases that make thinking if there is any point in this 
open source project.

Not saying your intention was this, just pointing out my perspective.

Original comment by samuli.j...@gmail.com on 8 Jan 2012 at 5:51

[GoogleCodeExporter]

I completely understand your perspective. I should mention that when i said 
people are using my server, your script and that i may need to consider some 
commercial ones then it was not meant as a threatening sentence or that your 
script is any bad. I too am thinking about the people using my server and I'm 
doing  my best to keep them happy. So as you see, in my perspective, this was 
not aimed for you at all, i was just worried about people using my server.

I honestly, sincerely think you are doing a great job and the script is really 
really good. I have gone through bazillion scripts like yours, none of them i 
ended up using in live server. All of them had something missing or were just 
not good enough. I decided to use yours, you can't imagine how happy i was and 
still am that i found this script of yours.
I know things are not perfect, your project is very close to that though.

I'm personally not so good at all when it comes to writing PHP and those kind 
of scripts in general. I am trying to help out projects like this as much as i 
can and as much as my current knowledge let's me. So far, in other free 
projects across the web, i have only been able to help them with translations, 
report bugs/ideas as much as i can etc. I know it is all very hard work, 
especially when done alone.
I have seen quite many great projects die (lack of developers), i hope this 
don't happen to yours.

If you have anything in mind that i might be able to help you with, please ask.
I will continue to use your script, i really love it, it's simple to use and 
has all the things i need for my server. I just hope my intelligence (as much 
as there is of it) won't come in way about configuring Mollify, making it run 
properly etc.

Next time I'll try to figure things out in more detail (and trying harder to 
make it work myself) before running to ask from you. The current issue was 
quite silly, i simply forgot that some of the plugin sub-plugins are not there. 
And my issues with not seeing the error log doesn't make things more easier.

P.S Already recommended your script to a friend of mine who was also searching 
for a script like this, he is also happy and is surprised that this is not a 
featured script around the web.

Hoping that whatever negative thoughts you have/had about me are hopefully now 
less negative. Just the lack of my knowledge causes some/most of these 
discussions.

Original comment by Logic...@gmail.com on 8 Jan 2012 at 6:35

[GoogleCodeExporter]

Thank you for your kind words, I really do appreciate. And no hard feelings, 
honestly. This was perhaps just the place to express the two-folded feelings I 
have for this project. This has grown quite big project, and it is very 
important for me. It is sometimes frustrating how little time I have for this, 
and occasionally the input seems like all the effort is for nothing.

But I doubt I will abandon this project, I have quite some ideas for it. Thanks 
again.

Original comment by samuli.j...@gmail.com on 8 Jan 2012 at 7:37