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Verify categories #454

Closed qwerty-ftw closed 1 year ago

qwerty-ftw commented 1 year ago

Please verify the categories of the selector, it's very, very embarrassing to see mediawiki wikis - especially the huge ones such as Wikimedia's - stating a language is or isn't significantly present somewhere in the world without anyone checking.

I'll only give one example with a diff link - here, the Venetian (vec) language has been added to the America category. It might have been sourced; who knows! Wikimedia forms a giant black-box and I don't want to register an account here and there just to review code; if you don't want to disrespect me, I would prefer you to not ask me to do so (or move to another github repository, just move this issue) and continue the conversation here as I won't migrate to some other platform to continue this issue.

You have to state somewhere - at least for the values in the default installation - which characteristics are taken into account for the selector's categories. Wikipedia and various sources surely have enough information for which language is spoken where. ... It struck me the first time when I saw Chinese in the America category, if this selector takes into account diasporas it's going to complicate a lot this system.

I urge anyone of you contributors to do the necessary; I don't connect here often - especially to provide more, surely unnecessary, extra info.

amire80 commented 1 year ago

Chinese and Venetian are not mistakes, as both are indeed spoken on the American continent, and it's easily verifiable. Wikimedia software is not a black box, and every line of code here can be easily traced to community requests, bug reports, and code commits. If you have examples of actual mistakes, please report them.

qwerty-ftw commented 1 year ago

@amire80 Clear rules have to be stated for the inclusion of languages in the selector. If you include every single diaspora the language selector is very very incomplete; one example: Italian and Italian languages are spoken in America too, these are not included though. Some languages have missing categories, too.

... And yes, it is indeed a black-box as one needs a developer account to browse upstream contributions. Closing the issue this fast shows how closed this project is.