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Effect of heat on stratification hindering convection/ DSW formation #40

Open willaguiar opened 3 months ago

willaguiar commented 3 months ago

I was looking at profiles of $\sigma_0$ and $\delta \sigma_0 / \delta z$ for the 1mtop and 5mtop simulation, and noticed that at the upper 50 m, 1mtop is less stratified than 5mtop (below).

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Perhaps that stronger stratification in 5mtop requires more energy to break, hindering convection and DSW formation on 5mtop?

That would add up to the fact that 5mtop has lower surface density, so it would have even lower potential energy to break stratification.

I cant explain why 5mtop would be more stratified tho.

adele-morrison commented 3 months ago

It would be interesting to see how these differences develop, eg what do these plots look like in the first month? Does the difference start from the surface and propagate downward?

willaguiar commented 3 months ago

Good point. I was just looking at that. Below are delta values (5m - 1m). each color is a month from IC, 1=Jan:

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Looking at the $\Delta \sigma_0$.... perhaps a thinner cell is more efficiently stirred/mixed laterally by wind, making the surface denser. In turn, the thicker cell has move volume, is less efficiently mixed laterally by winds and some of its high density signal travels down to the bottom of the mixed layer ….. making the 5mtop more stratified?

AndyHoggANU commented 3 months ago

OK, so within the first month there is significantly lighter water in the upper 15m of the 5mtop case. And maybe more dense water in 15-50m range? That seems more like a difference in the vertical transport. I hate to say it, but a @PaulSpence -inspired salt budget over this first month (maybe at daily resolution?) might be informative??

adele-morrison commented 3 months ago

That's really interesting to see! It definitely starts at the surface in summer in the first month. It propagates down all of a sudden in May - I wonder if that's when some winter convection starts to happen normally in the control and in the 5mtop case the convection is weakened due to the already enhanced surface stratification.

Maybe going even closer to the start would be interesting, i.e. repeating the plot on the right of density profile anomalies using daily data for the first 10 days or so? I wonder if we'd see it starting constrained even more to the top layers?

willaguiar commented 3 months ago

Just updating here the same plots for panan 5mtop - 1mtop. The behavior is fairly similar, but perhaps more concentrated on the surface, and with a smaller intensity

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willaguiar commented 3 months ago

I was thinking....... As sea ice melts, it would add freshwater and volume on the surface cell of the model. If I remember correctly from Andy 's $z$ presentation, increases in SSH are distributed along $z$ levels as changes in $dzt$, proportionally to the mean cell thickness. Perhaps that means that 5m cell can hold bigger $dzt$ increase and bigger increase in FW content than 1m cell.

Complementing that..... If I remember correctly, if the $z^*$ cell grows too much, then the extra grow relative to the maximum $z^{target}$ is used to calculate the vertical flux/velocity. I imagine it is easier to reach that maximum volume increase in the 1m cell, and thus its vertical velocities are likely bigger too ( exporting more of the extra FW to deeper levels and not a allowing to much FW to build up at surface).

This is a guess made knowing very little of the $z*$ vertical coords, so one question is....Does that make any sense?

willaguiar commented 2 months ago

Based on the density anomaly/stratification plots above, We thought it would be useful to see how the salinity over the shelf evolves in the few first months of the simulation + wether the freshwater transport to the shelf was altered between the simulations.

For clarification, I calculated the freshwater transport as the residual of the mass transport (Qx, and Qy) minus the salt content , as in

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where S is the absolute salinity. And after that I extracted the freshwater transport across the 1km isobath.

First, we can see that there is a continuous decrease in salinity over the top 10 m meters of the shelf in the 5m model [c] in 90 days. When we compute the freshwater transport across the 1km isobath, we can see below that right at the surface the freshwater transport of the 5m case increases a lot ([b] compared to [a]). Even when integrated over an average Ekman Layer depth of 35 m, the 5m model has stronger southward freshwater transport [d].

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This only clarifies that DSW shutdown is likely due to stronger Southward freshwater transport in the 5m. But that could still be either by differences in Ekman pumping/transport or differences in ice melting I guess.

willaguiar commented 1 month ago

Update on Freshwater/Salt effect- part 1

Context: We know the MOM5_5m simulation has reduced DSW formation relative to MOM5_1m, because MOM5_5m shelf is fresher at surface, then resisting DSW formation by buoyancy fluxes. This is because MOM5_5m shelf gets very fresh/light at the surface in the first 30-60 days prior to form DSW (plot below).

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The goal to evaluate the salt budget in the next comment, is to figure out what causes this freshening at the surface.


Salinity changes due to salt or freshwater content Salinity (S) can change either due to changing freshwater content, or due to changing salt content. With the DS/Dt output (salt tendency), I can calculate the daily salt content in each cell ($SC{shelf}$). The daily mass (M) of each cell will be $M = SC{shelf} \times$ $(S*1e-3)^{-1}$ , and the daily freshwater content of each cell will be the difference $FW{shelf} = M - SC{shelf}$ . With these values, I can calculate the salinity changes due to changes in salt content ($S^{salt}$) or changes in freshwater content ($S^{FW}$) as:

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A comparison of these three could give us a hint on whether salt or freshwater content changes determines the surface freshening in MOM5_5m. The biggest freshening on the shelf happens in the upper 10 m of the water column (below), so I focused on this layer.

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Below is $S^{salt}$ and $S^{FW}$ for the upper 10m, and $S^{salt}$ explains almost all the salinity changes. Therefore, the salt content budget might help us figure out the reason for the surface shelf freshening in MOM5_5m.

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willaguiar commented 1 month ago

Sal budget on the shelf

For the salt budget I output the following terms, and summed them fluxes on the top 10m of the shelf:

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With $F{surf}$ being the sum of the outputs: 'sfc_salt_fluxice' + _'sfc_salt_fluxrestore'

Below is the salt budget terms for MOM5_1m (a,b) and MOM5_5m (b,c), and the 5m-1m difference (d,e) The dominant term in salt removal in MOM5_1m is the advection, which is approx. balanced by salt gain by the implicit diffusion (a,b). Both advective salt loss and the salt gain by implicit diffusion decreases in MOM5_5m (b,e), but the compensation is not perfect (perhaps due to increased stratification), resulting in stronger salt removal in the first 30 days.

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adele-morrison commented 1 month ago

For dS/dt are you using the online tendency term?

willaguiar commented 1 month ago

For dS/dt are you using the online tendency term?

Yes - for dS/dt I used the _salttendency output

adele-morrison commented 1 month ago

FYI, we solved the budget closure (salt_vdiffuse_impl already includes the surface fluxes).

willaguiar commented 1 month ago

Perhaps this plot below helps explain a little more our 5m signal…

Below are the change in SSH(a), Ekman pumping (b), vertical salt fluxes in the upper 20m (positive upwards, c,d), and salinity anomalies [3], all for the shelf only ( south of 1km isobath). All that for the absolute wind experiments. Blue/orange contours in d and e are 1m and 5m isopycnals respectively.

Here a interesting story seem to appear. In the 5m case we have a fast development of positive anomalies in SSH near the Antarctic Coast (a, isobath shallower than 400m), suggesting increase in Ekman Pumping. The calculated Ekman pumping in the same region seem to increase from 1m to 5m cases. The downwards salt advection also increases south of the 400m isobath (d,e) where the Ekman pumping increased, decreasing the salinity in the upper shelf, and making the shelf densities decrease (contours in d,e).

This suggest that an increase in Ekman pumping, pumps out salt out of the surface, making these waters too fresh and DSW resistant.

Ekman_pumping_explanation-2

willaguiar commented 1 month ago

When we calculate the Ekman transport across the 1km isobath ( offline, assuming boussinesq, + southward), we see that the Ekman transport actually increases in the first month, which would increase the SSH at the coast, and increase the Ekman pumping… I think this ties up with our hypothesis than changes in Ekman pumping make the surface waters fresh and DSW resistant. The Ekman transport changes are small, but since we only change the top 5m of the grid, the pumping change likely happens only in this thin 5m slice ( ~15% of Ekman layer depth). So they might be important, even tho small.

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Some things to consider in the explanations above are: 1- We still don’t know why Ekman transport would increase in the 5m case with absolute winds. Especially since the upepr cell is slower in the 5m case( I have some guesses for it) 2- This is a simplistic story, as we see that there is a balance between Implicit diffusion and advection in the top 20m of the ocean ( check comment with salt balance), so advection alone might not be the best approach to explain things. I am remaking these calculations for a thicker layer ( perhaps about 50m or 100m) where implicit diffusion might not be as important. If the relationship holds, then perhaps we can reserve our explanation to only advection

adele-morrison commented 1 month ago

That seems like it could be plausible.

But how can increasing thickness of the top cell increase the Ekman transport? Have we looked at maps of zonal and meridional velocity averaged over the top 5m? You say the speed is slower, but maybe by looking at zonal/meridional components, we could see if the direction has changed (e.g. slower but stronger meridional velocities perhaps could increase Ekman pumping at the coast).

willaguiar commented 1 month ago

Below are the mean velocities (weighted by dzt) over the top 5m of both simulations.

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In the top we clearly see the decrease in zonal velocities, but in the bottom is quite difficult to see the changes in meridional velocities, because it is noisy. Perhaps, we can see the values shifting to be more negative towards the shelf.

I tried to simplify, and picked up the same velocities above, masked off-shelf, and averaged on the shelf (weighted by cell area). Here it gets easier to see... the zonal component does decrease, but the meridional component increases.

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So yepp, even tho the model with thicker cell has slower speeds, the meridional component of the velocity is bigger, increasing the Southward Ekman transport and pumping near the coast.

adele-morrison commented 1 month ago

That seems quite a significant change. Why would the meridional velocities increase as vertical resolution decreases? Could it be related to the direction of the Ekman transport rotating? What’s the average angle / direction of the transport in the top 5m on the shelf?

willaguiar commented 1 month ago

Yes, I think it is due to the change in the angle of the transport/velocities in the top 5m.

Below are the average 5m speed angle in both simulations, on the shelf. 0 degrees is northward speed, and the angle increases clockwise. That is not the same as the Ekman transport, but it could give a hint. (I'll calculate the Ekman transport angle later too). So the mean speed is directed Southwest. In the 5m case, the angle decreases by ~2 degrees, which would turn velocities a little more towards the south. This is simple to see on the shelf averages, but harder on the shelf maps.

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willaguiar commented 3 weeks ago

To get a better sense on if/why the Ekman transport really changes with resolution, I ran a new set of single column experiments. They are initialized with temperature and salinity as in these previous experiments for the Weddell Sea , use a beta plane approximation, with mean f0 for $65 ^oS$. Experiments have 2 zonal cells and 2 meridional cells with dx=dy=0.1 degrees, a maximum depth of 500 m and are re-entrant in X and Y. The only forcing applied is a zonal wind stress Tx = -0.05 n/m2 to simulate a westward wind. The 1m and 5m vertical grid are the same as MOM5_1m and MOM5_5m, but for the upper 500m of the water column.


Mean daily velocities after 30 days Just by changing the grid the velocity profiles change.

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We also see an increase in the Southward meridional transport in the 5m case, and decrease in the westward zonal transport (perhaps quite small??)

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Per layer, there is a decrease in meridional transport only in the top 5m of the “MOM5_5m” simulation, but right below it the southward transport increases (hence total increase along the water column in the bar plot)

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And below is a visualization of the direction of the velocities. The top 4 cells (total dzt~5m) of 1mtop case were weighted-average for comparison with the first cell of the 5m case. The results show that the surface speeds are tilted southeast in the 5m, while the subsurface layers are tilted more to the west in the 5m case.

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So the single column experiments agree that coarsening the grid changes the meridional mass transport, and the direction of the transport, as we noticed for access-om2 MOM5_5m. I guess the link missing is …. To come up with a way to calculate how much the change in transport direction/meridional transport value would alter the SSH and Ekman pumping?

adele-morrison commented 3 weeks ago

I think the best way to prove that the change in velocities drive the freshwater change is what Bob and Alistair suggested: Homogenise (i.e. depth average) the horizontal velocities in the top 5m of the 1m simulation online. Maybe worth testing offline first how well the depth average of the 1m case matches the 5m.

willaguiar commented 2 weeks ago

I reproduced the plots above in a rerun of the 1mtop, in which I used the KDS75 grid (1mtop) for running, but saving the output in the 5mtop grid. The resulting velocities seem to shift the same way in the online-depth-averaged output.

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I wonder if it is worthy reruning (~1 year) of panan_1mtop with the same approach of saving the outputs in 5m grid?

adele-morrison commented 2 weeks ago

I don't understand. Is that just saying that it makes no difference if you depth average the output of top 5m of 1m_top offline or online (because it shouldn't)?

willaguiar commented 2 weeks ago

yes... that was just a test to see if averaging the output online would give different results than offline ( it doesn't)

adele-morrison commented 2 weeks ago

Oh sorry, what I meant above was not averaging the output, but actually averaging the velocities used by the model every timestep online.

wghuneke commented 2 weeks ago

I think the best way to prove that the change in velocities drive the freshwater change is what Bob and Alistair suggested: Homogenise (i.e. depth average) the horizontal velocities in the top 5m of the 1m simulation online. Maybe worth testing offline first how well the depth average of the 1m case matches the 5m.

Would be neat if we could show this!

willaguiar commented 6 days ago

I was looking at MOM6 options, and I noticed it had an option to apply the wind stress not only in the first cell, but within a depth range (DIRECT_STRESS = True). If we achieve similar decrease in DSW formation in a simulation with the winds stress spread over the top 5m (HMIX_STRESS=5.1 m), but still having a 1m grid vertical, then that would be a good indication that a thicker upper cell feels the winds/Ekman transports differently, creating the pocket of low salinity waters we saw in this comment

Below is the result of this run (green lines - Panan_1m_directexperiment). We can see that ~100% of SWMT changes with resolution, and ~70% of the DSW overflow changes with resolution are reproduced by the Panan_1m_direct experiment, agreeing with our hypothesis.

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Finally, when looking at the signals that are relevant for Ekman dynamics (below for first Feb monthly mean), we can see that Panan_1m_directhas [a] an increase in SSH close the shelf similar to Panan_5m, similar mass transport across the 1km isobath at surface as panan_5m [b,c]. [d] is the salinity anomaly (panan_5mpanan_1m), and [e] is the anomaly relative to the direct winds case ( panan_5mpanan_1m_direct). We can see that most of the surface salinity anomaly also disappears in [e].

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Bottomline: A thicker surface cell has increased Southward Ekman transport and coastal pumping (e.g., SSH), exporting more salt out of the surface (panel d) and making the surface fresh and DSW resistant.

What do you think of that as the final explanation for the MS? What are your thoughts/suggestions on it?

@AndyHoggANU @adele-morrison @wghuneke @PaulSpence @fabiobdias @dkhutch

AndyHoggANU commented 5 days ago

Hi @willaguiar - nice work! Yes, I agree that this DIRECT_STRESS option is a very nice test of exactly what we wanted to test. It provides pretty firm evidence that the vertical resolution of the Ekman spiral is responsible for the differences we see.

It remains a very surprising result — that the system ask whole is so sensitive to the direct of the near-surface velocities — but the evidence supporting it is now very strong.

The one thing I would query is whether or not we can so that it is coastal pumping that is important, or if it’s cross-shelf freshwater transport. I don’t think we can yet distinguish … but perhaps we don’t need to resolve that question, and can leave it slightly open??