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Concessions #377

Closed GoogleCodeExporter closed 9 years ago

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
Not sure why I didn't try to add this before.  If a team conceds, players
of 51+ spp will leave.  Should have this added tomorrow hopefully.

Original issue reported on code.google.com by funnyfin...@hotmail.com on 28 Feb 2010 at 1:05

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
You know...It would be really cool if these players became free-booters (old BB 
thing
itchy feet skill)

Player would get the Loner Skill.

Would take extra work of course a list and purchase option. But how much fun to 
watch
your Star Player kick but in the leeg even though your not able to use him. It 
was so
much fun when we did it.. course just a suggestion..

MS

Original comment by williams...@comcast.net on 8 Mar 2010 at 6:15

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
I want to make this part of .9 as I will rearrange some of the code to make it a
easier to follow and such.

Original comment by funnyfin...@hotmail.com on 9 Mar 2010 at 1:54

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
Meant to say, the leaving roll is actually in the replay file for a game.

For the Stormboyz game in adding this element and filter

<element name="leaving_roll">
    <content type="firstValue">
       <filter path="roll1">
            <log>
             <type>LEAVING_ROLL</type>
             <key name="team" current="true" />
             <key name="player" current="true" />
            </log>
      </filter>
    </content>
 </element>

produces this for Duff (empty for everyone else)

<leaving_roll>6</leaving_roll>

Original comment by necrosis...@googlemail.com on 15 Mar 2010 at 2:16

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
Ok cool.  Well if you want to update the template with that we can go with it.  
No
need to commit it right away as you may have other things to add.  Also I 
wonder what
Nicholas thinks of it.

Nicholas - Do you want me to just handle this roll in the module and fire the 
player
or do you want to add something to the core code with a leaving roll?

Original comment by funnyfin...@hotmail.com on 15 Mar 2010 at 2:44

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
This is an extra rule from the LRB:

CONCEDING
A player that concedes (see page 15) before setting up for a
kick-off where he could only field 2 or less players suffers no
additional penalties. If one coach concedes the match for any
other reason then the winner gains all of the loser’s winnings and
MVP from this match. In addition, the loser automatically loses
one Fan Factor and may not roll for a new one, and any players
in the loser’s team that have 51 SPPs or more will leave the
team on a D6 roll of 1-3. Roll separately for each player with 51
or more SPPs to see if they leave.

...
Because of it being an extra rule (and a rule that not all in general will 
follow IMO), I would prefer to not taking any action on conceding on behalf of 
any leagues. Individual leagues may themselves determine what to do on 
conceding. If they want to use the rule, they can edit the match report 
accordingly to the extra rule and firing players after submitting the report.

I would propose, if you wish, to implement in leegmgr the things, from the LRB 
quote I wrote above, to be done _automatically_ if a report is received in 
which you can interpret from some field in the report, that a team conceded.

Original comment by Nimda...@gmail.com on 12 Jun 2010 at 8:57

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
Mostly every rule is in the extra rules.  I believe this is a rule every league 
would follow.  Aren't MNGs in the extra rules?

Original comment by funnyfin...@hotmail.com on 12 Jun 2010 at 2:30

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
Either way, maybe it's best to leave this up to the leagues. Amongst the extra 
rules I could imagine some (like this one) are more likely to be modified than 
others by local leagues. I will keep my stand on you supporting this in leegmgr 
if you feel strongly for it. What do you think about this? Is that OK?

Original comment by Nimda...@gmail.com on 20 Jun 2010 at 11:44

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago

Original comment by Nimda...@gmail.com on 20 Jun 2010 at 11:45

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
I would like to go the way you go on this.  I know every single rule is up to 
the comissioner, but I don't really think this is really any less of an 
optional rule than using the option skills.

It is a rare thing of course, since most people just don't concede.

Original comment by funnyfin...@hotmail.com on 22 Jun 2010 at 12:10

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
In addition is it possible to add a score option for conceding, I haven't seen 
this anywhere in 0.8, we have had need to discourage conceding

eg Win Loss Draw Concede
    3    2    1     -1

Original comment by ross.arm...@gmail.com on 22 Sep 2010 at 2:14

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
Concede is treated as a loss though.  The negatives are given in the rulebook.  
You could use the sportsmanshippoints though...

If you want to discourage it even further you could lower the threshold at 
which you roll for the players to leave the team.

Original comment by funnyfin...@hotmail.com on 25 Sep 2010 at 1:07

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
I have decided to take no action on this because this IS rare AND due to the 
fact that the implications/effects of conceding (see my comment #5) can be 
handled in the regular match report.

Closing.

William, you may of course automate this in the leegmgr module if you wish.

Original comment by Nimda...@gmail.com on 20 Oct 2010 at 3:16

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
I do handle this in leegmgr.  I change the score to make sure it is counted as 
a win.

Original comment by funnyfin...@hotmail.com on 20 Oct 2010 at 11:47