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mouSTer - universal USB HID class device to db9 adapter.
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Mac Plus and Apple II compatibility #16

Open supercompman opened 2 years ago

supercompman commented 2 years ago

It would be great to have compatibility with the Mac 128k/512k/Plus mouse which can also be made to be compatible with the Apple II mouse. Look here for information about how to use an Amiga mouse on a Mac Plus. Look here for information about making a Mac 9-pin mouse compatible with the Apple II series.

willyvmm commented 1 year ago

As well as MD Mac is also planned for the future. I have to analyze signal requirements for the M0100 mouse and take a decision if it is possible by firmware mod only or it needs a hardware adapter.

ziggystar12 commented 1 year ago

Amiga mouse adapter ST mouse adapter

Mac Plus Amiga mouse
9W male 9W male
1--GND------8
2--VCC------7
4--XA-------2
5--XB-------4
7--Button---6+9
8--YB-------3
9--YA-------1

ziggystar12 commented 1 year ago

Pinout for Mac Mouse from Amiga Swap 1 and 8 for GND Swap 2 and 7 for VCC Swap 4 and 2 for XA Swap 5 and 5 for XB Combine 6+9 on Amiga to 7 for button (unsure if either 6 or 9 will work, I'm guessing yes because Mac is 1 button) Swap 3 and 8 for YB Swap 9 and 1 for YA

ziggystar12 commented 1 year ago

Looks like APPLE II is much more complex.

willyvmm commented 5 months ago

I was thinking about APPLE II recently ... and I think there may be a better solution. What do you think about a mouSTer USB mouse card for APPLE II ?

ziggystar12 commented 4 months ago

https://www.applefritter.com/content/a2usb-apple-ii-usb-mouse-interface-card-emulation

https://retroconnector.com/products/desktop/adapters-and-interfaces/usb-mouse-interface-apple-ii/

Some things out there. Wish we could just add a little dongle between the existing adapter and the apple ii instead. 😊

John

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I was thinking about APPLE II recently ... and I think there may be a better solution. What do you think about a mouSTer USB mouse card for APPLE II ?

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willyvmm commented 4 months ago

Some things out there. Wish we could just add a little dongle between the existing adapter and the apple ii instead.

That is also possible. That solution would extend the overall length of the mouster by ca. 15-30 mm: 1708551019677

OR, a dedicated mouSTer for Mac. For my curiosity, what solution would be best for You?

ziggystar12 commented 4 months ago

I could see the two angles. Obviously from a cost perspective and to now say you have a single device that can handle more old computers than any other the dongle. Another approach in a future device might be to have a physical switch in the same device to switch those lines.

A dedicated device sounds like a cost/development risk to you and you also begin to compete with a dedicated product in a space that has some already.

There is no single mouse USB device that does what we are proposing here today. So that's marketable and a differentiator.

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Some things out there. Wish we could just add a little dongle between the existing adapter and the apple ii instead.

That is also possible. That solution would extend the overall length of the mouster by ca. 15-30 mm: 1708551019677.jpg (view on web)https://github.com/willyvmm/mouSTer/assets/24528286/f138ac8e-2565-470d-ab34-0a8436488795

OR, a dedicated mouSTer for Mac. For my curiosity, what solution would be best for You?

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jonathan-sturges commented 2 months ago

Hi, I'm interested in this capability as well. I'm new to mouSTer, but I do own one and I have 1 working M0100 mouse as well. If I can help test and debug, I'd be happy to do so. Thanks for all your efforts.