Visualizer works w/Platform but not Classic

Signdude commented 5 years ago

Thanks for any help.

Problem description

Visualizer works fine with Platform Version, just gives a blank white window in Classic version.

Expected Behavior

After loading a gcode file using Classic... I expect Visualizer to deliver a representation of the gcode.

Actual Behavior

After loading a gcode file using Classic... Visualizer gives a plain, white, empty window.

Steps to Reproduce the Problem

Open the program
Open a gcode file
Select Visualize
The Visualizer presents a Blank Visualizer window.

Specifications

Version

Universal Gcode Sender Classic (Version 2.0(nightly)/Dec. 18, 2018)

Operating system

Windows 10 (64 Bit)

Platform

GRBL 1.1f Java 8 Update 171 (64 Bit)

Other

visualizer

AbySet commented 5 years ago

Try to update java, i think 171 version is outdated.

Signdude commented 5 years ago

Thanks for the note. Just uninstalled 8u171 and installed 8u191. Visualizer still blank.

Thanks again.

AbySet commented 5 years ago

I believe it's using OpenGL or D3D, updating video card driver and directX may help. Not quiet sure but i would do it. This may have nothing to do with, but i also would clear the cash files, they are located at: c:\users\UserName\.ugs

Signdude commented 5 years ago

Thanks again. I do appreciate your attempts to guide me in the correct direction, but I have no idea what OpenGL or D3D are.

I updated UGS to Version 2 primarily to take advantage of the new GRBL 1.1's ability to use my probe for my Shapeoko XXL CNC.

The result of upgrading both is... not only does my probe still not work, my keypad pendant doesn't work either and now I have no visualizer.

So now I have what was once a working CNC sitting idle. I guess I'm screwed. I'll have to find a way to reflash my controller to GRBL 0.9 and find and download the orginal UGS.

Thanks again.

AbySet commented 5 years ago

Hey, I have tested classic version and i have same issue (blank white visualizer) so i think it's an issue that need to be fixed. My config: Windows 10 x64. grbl 1.1 java and video drivers all up to date. I hope the owner will fix this.

But i still have a question: Is there any reason for using classic version? platform version seems better to me.

Signdude commented 5 years ago

I don't know if the coding for the Visualizer has changed since the original version of UGS, but the Visualizer in the first version worked just fine on both of my computers and the V2.0 works on neither of them.

Thanks for checking. I feel a little better now that I know it's not just me. :)

JacksCrafts commented 5 years ago

Hey Signdude, I agree with AbySet, you should try the platform. You can move the mudules around to where you like. ugs_mod1 The macros are easy to set up. The probe module does not work for me. And the jog buttons in the lower right corner are not prcise (you have to get your mouse in just the right spot) and if you change from MM to Inch and back to MM the number is not the same. So there are some kinks that still need worked out. But I like it very much. Once I got the camera mod I will never go back. ugs_macro4 I use this everday, Thanks Winder

Signdude commented 5 years ago

Thanks for the note Jack. I downloaded and installed both Classic & Platform after using the original UGS for a couple years. Since I was already familiar with the original I tried the Classic version first. The first problem I ran into was the problem with the Visualizer.

So... I loaded up the Platform version and gave it a shot. I loaded a small file then checked the Visualizer and thought, well this looks like the way to go. I setup my piece, homed the gantry, zeroed everything, removed the bit for an air cut and hit send.

The gantry began heading at rapid speed toward the home position, paused and began all kinds of movements that had nothing to do with the job I was sending. I immediately killed power before I had any physical problems occurred.

I homed, repositioned, re-zeroed, re-visualized and hit send. It cut the job correctly. I have no idea where the mistery gcode came from. No other jobs had ever been run with the Platform version prior.

I've done some reading on the Platform version and it does look like it has some great new features. I've had a fit trying to get the various windows positioned to my liking, but I'll eventually get a combination that I can live with.

Thanks again for the feedback. I'm going to give it another going over this weekend.

Bill

AbySet commented 5 years ago

I'm glad you gave it a shot.

be carefull when holding right mouse button to jog, it does not stop when you release it, you have to left click on the same direction to stop it, this is not an issue, it's a feature that some people are using.
Also check z axis arcs by zooming on them before you send to the machine, as far as i know, there is an issue with that and it's caused by java not the ugs platform. You can see it on visualizer (Take a look here : https://github.com/winder/Universal-G-Code-Sender/issues/1154).
Switching between inchs and milimeters values will not get back to the exact first value, it's not the program issue and the difference is so small (0.009 mm) that you can just ignore it if you want (Except if you are carving a microscopic part), this need to have 16 decimal digits to be able to get back to the exact value.
I have no explanation about your first machine mystery moves reasons.

And JacksCrafts, the probe is working fine to me.

Signdude commented 5 years ago

Thanks AbySet.

With regards "right-mouse jogging"... Until you mentioned it I didn't realize that was a feature. However, using the right mouse button has no effect on any direction on my machine. Wondering if I'm the only one having the problem.

Thanks again.

p.s. I'm still having a couple problems getting my windows arranged the way I'd like them. Primarily the issue I have is with both the "Probe" and "Macro" windows. They seem to have a fixed width which makes it impossible to fit either of them under/above a narrower window. I'm going to begin searching Issues to see if there is a reference to this by someone else.

Signdude commented 5 years ago

Accidental Close. Sorry. :)

AbySet commented 5 years ago

No man you'r not the only one that right mouse don't work, as soon as i saw your post i ran to test it and it's not working for me anymore, i have no explaination about that. (after a min) I still have older versions of UGS (oct 21 2018) and i tested the feature with it and was working seems like they removed it. One mistake i did in the last post, you have to left click on the oposit direction to stop it not on the same direction. Macro window is fully movable and resizable to me. Probe window however is movable and resizable but i confirm that it has a small issue with the width, you can not make it smaller than a certain value (whitch still prety large for the side pannel).

Signdude commented 5 years ago

Hey AbySet,

Thanks for the note. You're correct about both Probe and Macro windows. I was eventually able to get the Macro window scaled down to where I can use it. The Probe window however, can only be contracted vertically. I can move it anywhere, but if I move it to a narrower area all windows in that area expand to match the size of the Probe window and can't be changed after that.

Thanks again for the heads-up on the jogging issue. If they find that the issue is not just my system and make a fix to it, I'll be prepared to left-click the opposite direction to stop the jog. :)

Thanks again.

Signdude commented 5 years ago

Hey Guys ,

Thanks AbySet, JacksCrafts and Will,

At your and others recommendations, I have accepted the inevitable and am using the Platform version of UGS.

I really wish someone could figure a way to get the Visualizer in the Classic version to work. I’m sure there are others who would prefer Classic. I’m not a big heavy maker, but I do enjoy using my Shapeoko XXL frequently. I don’t really need all the new features of the Platform version. I’m probably not going to need the Override functions, I have no idea what Proxy Settings are and I’ll probably never use the Dowel Maker or the UGS Surface Scanner functions. There’s no doubt that Platform is a powerful and well thought out program, but at my stage of progression in CNC it really has my head spinning a bit just trying to do some fairly simple jobs. Most of my jobs are nails... a Sledge would be overkill where I just need a hammer.

I’m sure you’re probably familiar with GRBL Panel. I just finished giving it a look over. I love it’s simplicity. It’s a plain vanilla program similar to the original version of UGS. Unfortunately, it doesn’t have a Visualizer. I really need one to make sure the file I opened is the one I intended to send to my machine.

Don’t get me wrong... I am getting more comfortable with arranging/organizing all the windows and I am able to make chips with my router. But, for me... I would be very happy with Classic, but I have to have a Visualizer.

Thanks so much for your help.

Bill

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Hey, I have tested classic version and i have same issue (blank white visualizer) so i think it's an issue that need to be fixed. My config: Windows 10 x64. grbl 1.1 java and video drivers all up to date. I hope the owner will fix this.

But i still have a question: Is there any reason for using classic version? platform version seems better to me.

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JacksCrafts commented 5 years ago

Hi Bill, You might try Source Rabbit, it is free open source. JacksCrafts

AbySet commented 5 years ago

I can see you have prety good reason for using classic version, everybody has his own business, i still confident that they will fix it. I'll keep trying some stuff around for you and let you know if i get something positive. Wish you the best.

Signdude commented 5 years ago

Thanks Guys,

I just downloaded and installed Source Rabbit on my "house" computer. I have to be connected to my CNC before it will open. So, I'll be carrying my flash drive out to the shop this afternoon and give it a spin.

Can't thank you guys enough for sticking with me.

All the best to you and yours. Bill

Signdude commented 5 years ago

Hi Bill, You might try Source Rabbit, it is free open source. JacksCrafts

Hey Jack,

Well.... I gave it a spin. :) What a cute little program. :) That's about as "plain vanilla" as you can get. But, it does perform the basic functions to load and cut a file. Thanks.

I'm staying with Platform... until someone can find a way to get Classic's Visualizer working for me.

Your help is much appreciated.

BIll

breiler commented 3 years ago

This will be fixed with the jogamp 2.4.0 version (still waiting for it to be released) I downloaded it manually and tried it out and it looks like it is working on MacOSX at least.

breiler commented 1 year ago

We have upgraded to Jogamp 2.4.0 in version 2.0.13 so I'm closing this.

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