Open rzhangwmo opened 2 months ago
2024-05-02 notes:
Charles Fierz introduced the request; see PPT: ttTDCF-20240502_issue198-CF2.pptx
Marijana noted that perhaps there needs to be a sm all group to discuss these requests;
Antoine noted that we could use surface flag in BUFR, e.g. 0-08-010 or 0-08-029, and then also maybe 0-02-096 to specify the type of sensor;
Jeff noted that snow temperature is 0-12-131 with scale 2 (there is no corresponding 0-12-031 with scale 1); the generic profile as described might not work as described but the code approach could work;
Team to look at snow surface temperature template as well as the generic profile template: @antoinemerle, @jbathegit, @marijanacrepulja, and @SibylleK
It would also be good to consider how or whether this proposed new template and content would relate to existing GTS snow reports which use the templates 3-07-103, 3-07-101, etc, since I know that Switzerland in particular is already reporting such data.
It would also be good to consider how or whether this proposed new template and content would relate to existing GTS snow reports which use the templates 3-07-103, 3-07-101, etc, since I know that Switzerland in particular is already reporting such data.
@jbathegit @antoinemerle @marijanacrepulja @SibylleK @rzhangwmo: The two templates above refer to properties of the snow cover (as a whole): snow depth, water equivalent of snow cover, and bulk snow density. Snow surface temperature could or can also be considered as a property of the snow cover (its skin temperature) while snow temperature is measured at multiple levels within the snow cover. Note that the GIMO terminology, used in WMDR, differs sometime a little bit from that of BUFR4 😇
From Antoine's comment above, I think I start to vaguely understand how a template could look like and why it may be difficult to include air in it. Looking forward to our next meeting to learn more.
@all I contacted MeteoSwiss but did not get an answer yet. I also contacted K. Isaksen, with whom you worked on issue#157 about permafrost temperatures. Great work!
I also attachj a few slides that may help better describe the problem from my side. ttTDCF-20240507_issue198-CF.pdf
https://github.com/wmo-im/CCT/wiki/Teleconference.14.May.2024 notes: Marijana reported out on the outputs from the meeting last week and presented the updated proposal details; the team discussed the details; points vs profiles; what category/sub-category would this fall under? @fierz @rzhangwmo check with providers/users to see if the generic profile is sufficient;
I did contact some possible players and discussions were very helpful and valuable. I'll report on those in more details (see also attached PDF) but below are the main results.
Table reference | Table references | Element name | Description / comment |
---|---|---|---|
3-07-104 | Cryo station temperature profile | ||
3 01 150 | WIGOS identifier | ||
0 01 019 | Long station or site name | ||
0 02 0011 | Type of station | ||
3 01 011 | Year, month, day | ||
3 01 013 | Hour, minute, second | ||
3 01 021 | Latitude/longitude (high accuracy) | ||
0 07 030 | Height of station ground above mean sea level | ||
0 08 029 | Surface type | / Defines on what 'ground' the station stands | |
0 02 177 | Method of snow depth measurement | / Not necesssarily needed | |
0 20 062 | State of the ground (with or without snow) | ||
2 03 YYY | Change reference values | / to allow negative values for snow depth | |
0 13 013 | Total snow depth | ||
2 03 255 | Change reference values | ||
0 08 029 | Surface type | Conflicting w/ definition above / See WMO-No. 306, Vol. I.2, I.2 – BUFR/CREX Table B/13 — 5, note 9 : shall be set to set to 11, 12, 13 or 14 to specify river, lake, sea or glacier, respectively. | |
0 13 115 | Ice thickness | / Nice to have | |
0 08 029 | Surface type | Cancel | |
0 08 010 | Surface qualifier (for temperature data) | ||
0 12 161 | Skin temperature | ||
0 08 010 | Surface qualifier (for temperature data) | Cancel / Is cancelling necessary? | |
1 07 000 | Delayed replication of 7 descriptors | ||
0 31 001 | Delayed replication factor | ||
0 07 034 | Height of sensor relative to local ground (or deck of marine platform) | ||
0 12 101 | Temperature/air temperature | ||
0 12 131 | Snow temperature | ||
0 12 130 | Soil temperature | ||
0 12 133 | Ice temperature | New / Needed for sea ice etc. | |
0 12 082 | Water temperature | ||
0 12 134 | Temperature kelvin | New / Temperature in kelvin as 0 12 023 is in degree Celsius |
Add new elements in table B | F X Y | ELEMENT NAME | UNIT | SCALE | REFERENCE VALUE | DATA WITH (bits) |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
0 07 034 | Height of sensor relative to local ground (or deck of marine platform) | m | 2 | 0 | 16 | |
0 12 133 | Ice temperature | K | 2 | 0 | 16 | |
0 12 134 | Temperature kelvin | K | 2 | 0 | 16 |
https://github.com/wmo-im/CCT/wiki/Teleconference.2024.June.4and5 notes: Charles presented some revisions to the proposal for generic temperature profile for cryosphere stations; there were discussions about "height of sensor relative to local ground", "Temperature Kelvin" descriptor; It was noted that temperature/air temperature == generic temperature OR air temperature;
TO DO: set up an ad hoc meeting to continue discussions in the first week of July; Change to FT2025-1
@jbathegit @antoinemerle @marijanacrepulja @SibylleK @rzhangwmo: (and further interested members of TT-TDCF)
Dear all Here is a refined proposal to be discussed next week on 2024-07-01. I added 4 question marks '? N' to elements that I think will need clarification. I also attach a spreadsheet that contains some more info and examples of data mapped to this new template. bufr4-202405_templateSnowTempProfile-v03.xlsx ttTDCF-20240701_issue198-CF.pdf
Table reference | Table references | Element name | Element description | comment |
---|---|---|---|---|
3-07-104 | Cryo station temperature profile | |||
3 01 150 | WIGOS identifier | |||
0 01 019 | Long station or site name | |||
0 02 001 | Type of station | |||
3 01 011 | Year, month, day | |||
3 01 013 | Hour, minute, second | |||
3 01 021 | Latitude/longitude (high accuracy) | |||
0 07 030 | Height of station ground above mean sea level | |||
0 08 029 | Surface type | Defines on what 'ground' the station stands | ||
0 13 115 | Ice thickness | ? 3 -> See WMO-No. 306. Note to be adapted! | ||
0 20 062 | State of the ground (with or without snow) | |||
2 03 YYY | Change reference values | ? 2 -> How to get rid of -2 ref value | ||
2 01 131 | Change data width | Add 3 bits, see issue https://github.com/wmo-im/BUFR4/issues/157 | ||
2 02 129 | Change scale | to allow for mm precision | ||
0 13 013 | Total snow depth | |||
2 01 000 | Change data width | Cancel | ||
2 02 000 | Change scale | Cancel | ||
2 03 255 | Change reference values | Cancel | ||
0 08 010 | Surface qualifier (for temperature data) | |||
0 12 161 | Skin temperature | |||
0 08 010 | Surface qualifier (for temperature data) | Cancel | Is cancelling necessary? | |
1 10 000 | Delayed replication of 10 descriptors | ? 4 -> Is a Time period or displacement (0 04 025) set to zero needed here? See issue #157. | ||
0 31 001 | Delayed replication factor | |||
0 07 034 | Vertical distance of sensor | New | ? 1 -> From WIGOS Metadata Standard ID 5-05, Vertical distance of the sensor from a (specified) reference level | |
0 12 101 | Temperature/air temperature | Generic temperature OR(==/) air temperature | ||
0 12 131 | Snow temperature | |||
2 01 131 | Change data width | Add 3 bits, see issue https://github.com/wmo-im/BUFR4/issues/157 | ||
2 02 129 | Change scale | to allow for mK precision | ||
0 12 130 | Soil temperature | |||
2 01 000 | Change data width | Cancel | ||
2 02 000 | Change scale | Cancel | ||
0 12 133 | Ice temperature | New | Needed for sea ice etc. | |
0 12 082 | Water temperature |
Add new elements in table B | F X Y | ELEMENT NAME | UNIT | SCALE | REFERENCE VALUE | DATA WITH (bits) |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
0 07 034 | Vertical distance of sensor | m | 2 | -65000 | 17 | |
0 12 133 | Ice temperature | K | 2 | 0 | 16 |
https://github.com/wmo-im/CCT/wiki/Teleconference.24and26.June.2024 notes: Proposal is updated and meeting on Monday to discuss further
Meeting on 1 July 2024 Decisions:
https://github.com/wmo-im/CCT/wiki/Teleconference.2.July.2024 notes Marijana explained the decisions from meeting yesterday
Following the decisions taken on 2024-07-01, please find below the final proposal for the Cryo station temperature profile template. I'll work with MeteoSwiss and my colleagues at SLF/WSL to provide sample BUFR files for validation the latest by end of October 2024.
Table reference | Table references | Element name | Element description | comment |
---|---|---|---|---|
3-07-104 | Cryo station temperature profile | |||
3 01 150 | WIGOS identifier | |||
0 01 019 | Long station or site name | |||
0 02 001 | Type of station | |||
3 01 011 | Year, month, day | |||
3 01 013 | Hour, minute, second | |||
3 01 021 | Latitude/longitude (high accuracy) | |||
0 07 030 | Height of station ground above mean sea level | |||
0 08 029 | Surface type | Defines on what 'ground' the station stands | ||
0 13 115 | Ice thickness | Adapt note 9 to Class 13 | ||
0 20 062 | State of the ground (with or without snow) | |||
0 13 119 | Snow depth | New | Add note X to Class 13; millimetre precision is needed | |
0 02 177 | Method of snow depth measurement | |||
0 08 010 | Surface qualifier (for temperature data) | |||
0 12 161 | Skin temperature | |||
0 08 010 | Surface qualifier (for temperature data) | Cancel | ||
1 10 000 | Delayed replication of 11 descriptors | |||
0 31 001 | Delayed replication factor | |||
0 07 034 | Vertical distance of sensor | New | Positive values are above, negative values below the specified reference level 0 07 030; corresponds to WIGOS Metadata Standard, see added note X to Class 13 below | |
0 02 096 | Type of temperature sensor | Add three types of sensors to Code Table (see below) | ||
0 12 101 | Temperature/air temperature | Generic temperature OR air temperature | ||
0 12 131 | Snow temperature | |||
2 01 131 | Change data width | Add 3 bits, see issue https://github.com/wmo-im/BUFR4/issues/157 | ||
2 02 129 | Change scale | to allow for mK precision | ||
0 12 130 | Soil temperature | |||
2 01 000 | Change data width | Cancel | ||
2 02 000 | Change scale | Cancel | ||
0 12 133 | Ice temperature | New | Needed for temperature of ice bodies | |
0 12 082 | Water temperature |
F X Y | ELEMENT NAME | UNIT | SCALE | REFERENCE VALUE | DATA WIDTH (bits) |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
0 07 034 | Vertical distance of sensor (see Note X) | m | 2 | -65000 | 17 |
0 12 133 | Ice temperature | K | 2 | 0 | 16 |
0 13 119 | Snow depth (see Note X) | m | 3 | -10000 | 15 |
Code figure | Code table 0 02 096 |
---|---|
8 | Platinum resistance thermometer |
9 | Thermistor |
10 | Thermocouple |
Initial request
I'm submitting the request expressed by the Expert Team on Snow Watch of AG-GCW, for the generation of a new BUFR Template for Snow Surface Temperature (or expansion of an existing sequence, as the case may be). The scientific lead of the issue is Dr Charles Fierz (fierz@slf.ch), who will connect with MeteoSwiss on the data exchange aspects. Ran Zhang (rzhang@wmo.int) will support Charles, from the Secretariat. Thank you.
Amendment details
2. Add a new BUFR template in table D
Comments
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Requestor(s)
Ran Zhang, rzhang@wmo.int Rodica Nitu, rnitu@wmo.int
Stakeholder(s)
Charles Fierz (fierz@slf.ch)
Publication(s)
Manual on Codes (WMO-No. 306), Volume I.2
Expected impact of change
None
Collaborators
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References
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Validation
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