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Wayland port? #46

Closed Anachron closed 8 years ago

Anachron commented 8 years ago

I've just come across this project and I really love what you did here! I'm wondering whether it can/will be ported to Wayland though,- did you dig into the specifications yet?

My idea is here to get the same workflow with the same script names, just the scripts itself have a different implementation.

This way one could replace his X-Server with Wayland and still have a fully working WM environment.

z3bra commented 8 years ago

From what I understand from wayland, it is not possible to "port" wmutils to it. Due to wayland's design, it is not possible to use it without having a full compositor running, that would handle everything frol drawing windows to managing the clipboard. wmutils provides binaries around builtin X features, like moving a window on the screen by making call to the X server, which is running for every session. There is no such thing in wayland, as the "compositor" (synonym to "window manager" for X), act as the server itself.

Anachron commented 8 years ago

Thanks for your quick response. But even then, would an api/interface not allow one to connect to this server and give commands to it?

z3bra commented 8 years ago

To make it "work", you would have to write a full compositor, and have it listen to different commands on a socket. Basically, something like ratpoison. This is totally different from wmutils' design. Another idea would be to take an existing conpositor with an external API, and send commands to it. This is, again, different from our design and closer to what wmctrl is.

wmutils is a set of standalone tools one can use to manipulate windows without needing a full WM.

CamilleScholtz commented 8 years ago

But even then, would an api/interface not allow one to connect to this server and give commands to it

The smart people behind Wayland didn't think of creating a standardized API. I'm sure there a few third part projects going on, but even then essential tools people use with wmutils, like a hotkey daemon, screenshot program, notification popup program etc. etc. can't be used, because all that stuff depends on the compositor.

Anachron commented 8 years ago

The smart people behind Wayland didn't think of creating a standardized API. I'm sure there a few third part projects going on, but even then essential tools people use with wmutils, like a hotkey daemon, screenshot program, notification popup program etc. etc. can't be used, because all that stuff depends on the compositor.

Closing this as useless then. The more I hear about Wayland the more I doubt it will ever become a standard. Thanks for your great replies!