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A site that allows people to play a crossword board game against each other
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[Request] Add Catalan language #1091

Closed jmontane closed 1 year ago

jmontane commented 1 year ago

Hi, Is liwords multilanguage? I was able to run docker stack locally, all works fine! So, I ask/request for adding new languages. I mean: tile distribution, dictionary, and translating UI.

I play word games in Catalan language, and I keep updated an open-source Catalan wordlist. So, can provide linguistic resources for Catalan languages.

domino14 commented 1 year ago

Yep, we can support any language/tile set (we have Norwegian and German too), but localizing the UI is a little bit harder, and we haven’t made it localizable yet. IIRC Catalan has two-letter tiles which might make it a little more difficult but it’s doable.

Is the open-source Catalan wordlist the same one used as in competition? If you think we could get players to play in Catalan on Woogles let me know.

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Hi, Is liwords multilanguage? I was able to run docker stack locally, all works fine! So, I ask/request for adding new languages. I mean: tile distribution, dictionary, and translating UI.

I play word games in Catalan language, and I keep updated an open-source Catalan wordlist. So, can provide linguistic resources for Catalan languages.

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jmontane commented 1 year ago

Yep, Catalan tiles distribution has special tiles (non-ASCII and multiletter ones): Ç, NY, and L·L. Additionally, Q tile is played as QU in all tournaments.

DISC (utf8 encoded) is open-licensed Catalan wordlist. DISC is used as arbitration wordlist in some tournaments. But, some other tournaments use another closed wordlist. Yes, we (Catalan players) are divided with 2 list of words.

We play an informal online competition with a scrabble-like app called Apalabrados / Word Crack, but we are searching alternatives to such app. It exists a dedicated Catalan website, called Catamots, but it uses the closed wordlist, and it's web 1.0 styled. So, yes! Woogles is a really good option for us! I think some players (~80) could use Woogles to play in Catalan language regularly.

In the past, I helped to adapt and translate Scrabble3D, Quackle, Elise, and Xwords to Catalan. So I can translate Woogle for free too.

domino14 commented 1 year ago

quick question - since the Q tile is played as QU, then bingos that have a Q in them (plays that use all 7 tiles) must be at least 8 letters long?

jmontane commented 1 year ago

In Catalan we distinguish letter from tiles:

So, theoretically:

Of course, there are words of 15 tiles length in dictionary. Currently, longest words are 18 chars long, because L·L and QU tiles are used.

About QU tile: There are two possible solutions about this issue:

domino14 commented 1 year ago

The PR will probably be titled "Més que un app"

jmontane commented 1 year ago

As this issue derived to adding Catalan language support to Woogles, I've edited issue title :)

Just "one more thing". Can a "slow mode" be added? Something like 7 days/turn. It would allow plays in asynchronous mode, like old postal mail chess games.

domino14 commented 1 year ago

we've had a slow mode in mind for a long time. It will likely be developed, just a matter of time.

Naushika322 commented 1 year ago

Hola César. Me llamo Sayaka, soy jugadora de Scrabble en Catalan, Español e Inglés. Hace unos años fui la presidenta de la Federación de Scrabble en Catalan, pero ahora estoy apoyando a otra asociación que se llama AJUSC (Asociación de jugadores de Scrabble en Catalan). Hace casi dos semanas que mi compañero de Scrabble en Catalan, Joan, os preguntó si podríais añadir el catalan al Woogles o no. Veo que la conversación terminó aquí y no hemos recibido vuestra respuesta. El mundo del Scrabble en Catalan está dividido en dos por la diferencia de ideas y de diccionario, igual que en los Estados Unidos con CoCo, Naspa y WGPO. La Federación tiene su propia APP que se llama “Catamots”, como la “REdeletras” de la FISE, del Scrabble en Español, pero nosotros, la Ajusc, estábamos buscando una nueva plataforma y nos ha gustado mucho vuestro Woodles. ¿Qué opinais? ¿Pensáis que no merece la pena toda la faena de hacer los dígrafos para pocos jugadores? Es decir, ¿no es factible añadir el Catalan? Nosotros organizamos cada año el mundial de Scrabble en Catalan y otros torneos de Scrabble competitivo. ¿Hay alguna cifra mínima de jugadores que tenemos que tener?

domino14 commented 1 year ago

Hola @Naushika322. Es totalmente factible, y creo que sí se puede hacer. Todo es cuestión de tiempo. De todos modos, sí he investigado que es lo que se puede hacer, y creo que no va a ser tan difícil añadir el Catalán. Joan me dijo que tal vez podrían jugar mas o menos como 80 personas, que sería bien bueno. Piensas que la cifra es fiel? Déjame ver si puedo prioritizar esta adición tal vez en el próximo mes o dos. Nos mantenemos en contacto.

Naushika322 commented 1 year ago

En la liga que organiza la Ajusc dos veces al año se apuntan más o menos 90 personas, pero no toda la gente se apuntará al Woogles. Pero tengo más ideas como por ejemplo torneos interclubes o algo así. Haremos todo lo que podamos para la difusión del Woogles. Muchas gracias. Estaremos en contacto.

domino14 commented 1 year ago

@jmontane @Naushika322 Are there single characters that you prefer to type in for the special digraph tiles?

On Woogles you can type in your play into the board. Typing in L•L is probably unwieldy - even if it will display properly, it is not simple to take in multi-character input with the keyboard.

I was thinking you can type in "W" for L.L and "Y" for NY (or perhaps Ñ?) Q for QU seems fine too. Would those be good? Or do you have other preferences?

jmontane commented 1 year ago

Hi!

Words with K, Y (not following N), and W letters are forbidden currently, so using W for L·L, Y for NY, and Q for QU is fine (same mapping was used in the past for Wabble and customized build of Quackle)

In long term future, maybe words with K, Y and W letters could be played using a blank. So, this mapping could be revisited. But I think it's the natural and expected choice now.

domino14 commented 1 year ago

this is coming soon (within the next few days). I will notify you all here. Let me know how else we can get the word out?

Naushika322 commented 1 year ago

Do you mean that you have finished?

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domino14 commented 1 year ago

Yes, pretty much. I still have to do some testing but it should be live on Woogles in a couple of days.

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Naushika322 commented 1 year ago

I'm in Woogles group on Facebook, so if you post something in it, I can share it. And Catalan Scrabble Associatión also has an account on Facebook, so I think they can do the same. And you can post something on Twitter, too.

Thank you so much, César and Woogles team!

Sayaka

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Yes, pretty much. I still have to do some testing but it should be live on Woogles in a couple of days.

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