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es: a shell with higher-order functions
http://wryun.github.io/es-shell/
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notes #50

Closed musvaage closed 1 year ago

musvaage commented 1 year ago

One of the co-authors of es wrote me historically he had a difficult time locating maintainers for the shell.

xs appears to be abandonware

@wryun

I'd enquire if you might consider suggesting to the xs author that the repo could be moved to wyrun/XS?

running ./buildscan.sh outputs warnings

the autotools build was converted to a meson build

not all meson versions work for the build (a python3 virtual environment with meson-0.54.x or 0.56.x works)

$ python3 -m venv xs_env
$ ~/xs_env/bin/python3 -m pip install --upgrade pip
Requirement already satisfied: pip in ./xs_env/lib/python3.9/site-packages (22.0.4)
$ ~/xs_env/bin/python3 -m pip install meson==0.56.2
Collecting meson==0.56.2
  Downloading meson-0.56.2.tar.gz (1.8 MB)
    ---------------------------------------- 1.8/1.8 MB 358.5 kB/s eta 0:00:00
  Installing build dependencies ... done
  Getting requirements to build wheel ... done
  Preparing metadata (pyproject.toml) ... done
Building wheels for collected packages: meson
  Building wheel for meson (pyproject.toml) ... done
  Created wheel for meson: filename=meson-0.56.2-py3-none-any.whl size=698109 sha256=3262eb59133294b2cc2af3da245c12ed05ce1a8cb1130f7269ad2ba22c83f845
  Stored in directory: /home/eric/.cache/pip/wheels/b8/1a/46/6990fd0de22ecf99596a8ee2d65e0c2e8bc3403872b57f33a5
Successfully built meson
Installing collected packages: meson
Successfully installed meson-0.56.2
$ source ~/xs_env/bin/activate
(xs_env) $ which meson
/home/eric/xs_env/bin/meson
(xs_env) $

A FSF associate wrote me they looked at math.xs, describing it as ugly.

In addition, it seems to mean using functional programming to decompose a list. That is a pain in the neck.

I don't know whether it is more bad or less bad than programming in shell syntax. But at least there' an excuse in that case: programming is built around a command line syntax. I see no excuse for making the math.xs syntax so inconvenient. If they're designing a new language from zero, why take such a big step backard?

wryun commented 1 year ago

I've never actually looked at xs, I'm afraid, but I have limited enthusiasm for maintaining es let alone xs (in fact, if a contributor wanted to 'own' es themselves, I'd be happy to give it up).

Probably best to use the Discussions section - https://github.com/wryun/es-shell/discussions - if there's no specific issue.

musvaage commented 1 year ago

use the Discussions

Of course.

Maybe the "notes" are of some interest to those considering further development of es.

IIRC, @pmarreck in another ticket had expressed interest in xs, the C++ implementation of the shell.