EasyEffects output volume much too low

[ratcheer]

My output volume is now much too low. I have to turn it up to +23 dB to get anything like what I was getting with PulseEffects. I have verified that the volumes are correctly set in pavucontrol and EasyEffects - all at 100%. I will open a new Issue on this, if you want.

Originally posted by @ratcheer in https://github.com/wwmm/easyeffects/issues/1013#issuecomment-877813149

[ratcheer]

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(easyeffects:6500): easyeffects-DEBUG: 10:19:37.944: application: device alsa_card.usb-GuangZhou_FiiO_Electronics_Co._Ltd_FiiO_Q5_FA500396-00 has changed profile to: output:analog-stereo

(easyeffects:6500): easyeffects-WARNING **: 10:19:37.944: soe: convolver: irs file does not exists or it is empty:

(easyeffects:6500): easyeffects-WARNING **: 10:19:37.944: soe: convolver: Entering passthrough mode... (easyeffects:6500): easyeffects-DEBUG: 10:19:37.981: soe: pipeline latency: 128.000000 ms (easyeffects:6500): easyeffects-DEBUG: 10:19:37.981: soe: pipeline latency: 213.333344 ms (easyeffects:6500): easyeffects-DEBUG: 10:19:37.981: soe: pipeline latency: 223.333344 ms

[ratcheer]

It looks like I may need several more plugins. Please advise. Thanks.

[wwmm]

It looks like I may need several more plugins. Please advise. Thanks.

They are there. This is what may not be right

(easyeffects:6500): easyeffects-WARNING **: 10:19:37.944: soe: convolver: irs file does not exists or it is empty:

(easyeffects:6500): easyeffects-WARNING **: 10:19:37.944: soe: convolver: Entering passthrough mode...
(easyeffects:6500): easyeffects-DEBUG: 10:19:37.981: soe: pipeline latency: 128.000000 ms
(easyeffects:6500): easyeffects-DEBUG: 10:19:37.981: soe: pipeline latency: 213.333344 ms
(easyeffects:6500): easyeffects-DEBUG: 10:19:37.981: soe: pipeline latency: 223.333344 ms

The convolver was not able to load the irs file. Is there one set in its window? In any case I do not see a reason why the latency would jump to so high values just because the convolver entered in passthrough mode. Strange... What happens if you do not add the convolver to the list?

[wwmm]

Also try to see if there isn't any input gain or output gain slide value that you were using before and that you forgot to apply when moving the values to EasyEffects. That could explain the volume difference.

[ratcheer]

I am only intentionally using the equalizer module. Does it require convolver? I didn't think it does. I'll see what I can figure out. At this point, I don't even know what an irs file is.

My input and output sliders in the equalizer settings are the same as I had them in PulseEffects. Input is -7.2 db to prevent clipping, my bass band is +7.2 DB, and output was 0, except when I put it up +23 to hear any output. In the main EasyEffects volume setting, it is set at 100%. In pavucontrol, all of the volume sliders are set at 100%.

I am mildly annoyed. PulseEffects had been working perfectly for me, and now all of this. But I know we'll get it worked out

[ratcheer]

I went to the convolver plugin in EasyEffects, and clicked "Bypass". It did not help. The output volume is still faint.

The convolver says it is using zita-plugin.

[ratcheer]

Ok, I have discovered this -

First, there is an Autogain module that was enabled and set to -23 dB. Bypassing it, I get good output volume. I have never clicked on that module, before.

So, second, it seems that every plugin is enabled by default in my upgrade from PulseEffects to EasyEffects. I do not expect any of them to be enabled unless I specifically enable them. And, as far as I know, that's how PulseEffects had been working.

How can I set EasyEffects to work like PulseEffects did? It seems that if I bypass a module and exit EasyEffects, it is not bypassed the next time I start it.

[wwmm]

Oh! I see... As you were trying to reuse your old presets maybe you added all the plugins to the list. Things are a little different in EasyEffects. Now the user is able to actually remove the plugin from the list at the right panel. If you want only the equalizer it should look like this The only entry in the list is the equalizer. If you add more these additional plugins will be active unless you click on the bypass button.

[josefandersson]

Was just about to post an issue about my problem but reading your last comment here fixed my problem, thanks!

When I first started easyeffects yesterday my startup script was attempting to run my old presets as usual—which enabled a bunch of plugins with very odd settings that completely stopped the sound (really, no output). After that it didn't help to remove the presets and whatnot because I suspect the plugins had already been enabled. Your comment made me realize that the list of plugins in the Plugins tab are all enabled plugins, unlike Pulseeffects where they where in the list even when disabled.

[wwmm]

Yes. The problem with PulseEffects approach is that the user was forced to always see in the plugins list plugins he/she did not want. Now you have to add only the ones you want.

[ratcheer]

Ok, I will remove all modules except the equalizer. But, again, I did not have to do that in PulseEffects.

[josefandersson]

@wwmm Yep yep, makes sense. Wasn't very clear that was the case when there was a bunch of plugins in the list when I first started the program though 😅

[wwmm]

Wasn't very clear that was the case when there was a bunch of plugins in the list when I first started the program though

A side effect of trying to reuse the old presets without converting them. By the default that list is empty in a fresh start.

[josefandersson]

@wwmm Yeah I get that, but I'm using easyeffects -l <preset> at startup so I never saw the empty list 🤣 Maybe not a lot of people use it like me, but maybe worth having an entry in FAQ to suggest removing all plugins from the list in Plugins tab if sound doesn't work? Either way, you're a freaking legend for making this program dude, seriously thanks. I couldn't stand not having it.

[ratcheer]

PS - I try to send regular donations. I will check the status. I appreciate your help, and this is one of my favorite applications. Thank You!

[wwmm]

but maybe worth having an entry in FAQ to suggest removing all plugins from the list in Plugins tab if sound doesn't work?

It is a good idea.

PS - I try to send regular donations. I will check the status. I appreciate your help, and this is one of my favorite applications. Thank You!

Thanks!