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Add renal pelvis to AS for kidney #112

Open andreasbueckle opened 3 weeks ago

andreasbueckle commented 3 weeks ago

For the kidney (4 sites), the WUSTL team registered all sites into the renal pelvis, which is a LANDMARK, and hence we get no collisions when landmarks are turned off (it is a cavity): image

Same view with landmarks on (the site now lies neatly in the renal pelvis landmark): image

View of the renal pelvis landmark in Babylon (with BB): image

A solution for this issue could be to make the renal pelvis a crosswalked AS that gets picked up by the mesh and BB collisions. For this, it needs an UBERON or FMA ID. There exists one for it at https://www.ebi.ac.uk/ols4/ontologies/uberon/classes/http%3A%2F%2Fpurl.obolibrary.org%2Fobo%2FUBERON_0036295. Details are TBD. Unsure how to proceed in a timely manner since we have a way to go before the next release where the 3D Reference Object and asct-b-3d-models ​crosswalk (https://lod.humanatlas.io/ref-organ/asct-b-3d-models-crosswalk/latest/) can be adjusted if that is the route we want to go.

As of now, we need to drop 61 datasets: HBM455.PRVR.965: 2 datasets HBM486.QXHD.874: 4 datasets HBM556.CFNP.485: 52 datasets HBM752.DHVB.758: 3 datasets So total of 61

emquardokus commented 1 week ago

@andreasbueckle tissue blocks can be taken from the wall of the renal pelvis but you will not get cells from a hole/cavity. So if the blocks are in the center of the renal pelvis (the center of the tube), they are not correctly registered and those should be confirmed to be actually from renal pelvis and not meant to be in the adjacent kidney tissue next to the renal pelvis. I've not see datasets nor have I heard of any sampling from the renal pelvis from the kidney team. Urothelial cells line the renal pelvis. Renal pelvis is contiguous with the ureter in a similar manner to large blood vessels narrow to smaller diameter blood vessels.
Please verify that the wall of renal pelvis were really sampled. I think this is a mistake.

andreasbueckle commented 1 week ago

@Qaurooni, @.***> Could you please ask Amanda?


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@andreasbuecklehttps://github.com/andreasbueckle tissue blocks can be taken from the wall of the renal pelvis but you will not get cells from a hole/cavity. So if the blocks are in the center of the renal pelvis (the center of the tube), they are not correctly registered and those should be confirmed to be actually from renal pelvis and not meant to be in the adjacent kidney tissue next to the renal pelvis. I've not see datasets nor have I heard of any sampling from the renal pelvis from the kidney team. Urothelial cells line the renal pelvis. Renal pelvis is contiguous with the ureter in a similar manner to large blood vessels narrow to smaller diameter blood vessels. Please verify that the wall of renal pelvis were really sampled. I think this is a mistake.

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emquardokus commented 11 hours ago

@danqaurooni tagging you on this as I think Andi did not get your github tag correct. Do you know whether the renal pelvis block are really meant to be within the kidney itself or sampling the wall of renal pelvis? Renal pelvis is a cavity and does not inherently contain cells. The wall of it would that makes up the cavity. Or more probably the blocks which result in 61 datasets are meant to be within the kidney proper.