Closed almirus closed 2 years ago
I'm having the same problem. When pressing "login", the application just closes and doesn't open a browser window for authentication.
No use in opening just another issue with all the same problem. Already clearly addressed in three other issues, with the titles clearly indicating this: https://github.com/yaronzz/Tidal-Media-Downloader-PRO/issues/156 https://github.com/yaronzz/Tidal-Media-Downloader-PRO/issues/157 https://github.com/yaronzz/Tidal-Media-Downloader-PRO/issues/158
Solved in tidal-dl v2021.11.21.1 and in tidal-gui 1.2.1.8.
after update, only flac are downloaded :(
In my experience, when you use tidal-dl v2021.11.21.1, you can also download 320kbps AAC encoded m4a files. This is with AudioQuality set to High. But maybe you want to download MASTER quality? I don't know if this is possible. My subscription does not include Master streams.
no, I want to download Dolby Atmos (mp4) files for example https://listen.tidal.com/album/204710180
@almirus As stated on the download page, at the moment only FLAC files are possible as the highest quality.
@enoversum now the older version also downloads in only FLAC format. 😌
@almirus If you read the other issues I linked above, you can see that there were changes from TIDAL’s side that made the old versions incapable of connecting to TIDAL. That's why there is a new version up now that fixes the problem. It only allows for FLAC or lower-quality downloads, no Dolby Atmos or Master quality. Let’s be happy we’re able to download lossless files again, at least! It’s a free app, and the dev invests time into it, so we can use it for free!
Bay bay MQA 192 or NO ??
@almirus If you read the other issues I linked above, you can see that there were changes from TIDAL’s side that made the old versions incapable of connecting to TIDAL. That's why there is a new version up now that fixes the problem. It only allows for FLAC or lower-quality downloads, no Dolby Atmos or Master quality. Let’s be happy we’re able to download lossless files again, at least! It’s a free app, and the dev invests time into it, so we can use it for free!
We shouldn't call this "lossless" as it's not, it's mqa that has been corrupted so it will no longer unfold.
This is what happens now when downloading an mqa :
24 bit mqa flacs are stripped to 16 bit version. This removes the folded data completely.
48kHz mqa flacs (48,92,192 mqas) are downsampled to 44kHz
=> You end up with a 16/44kHz pcm but this is certainly not a "lossless cd quality" pcm , but a crippled mqa.
This has some strange consequences :
if the original mqa was a 44.1 88.2 176.4 or 352.8 the signal will still be there in the 16/44 truncated version; and the dac will still show "MQA 44.1; 88.2; 176.4 or 352.8", and even a studio dot if one was granted, HOWEVER, since the 8 bits of folded data are gone, it can no longer unfold.
if the original mqa was a 48 92 or 192 not only the 8 folded data bits are gone, also the mqa signal is now corrupt because of the downsampling... the dac will show "PCM 44.1" in all these cases.
So no matter what, you are NOT getting "lossless cd quality" (redbook) but you are getting an mqa that has been stripped from it's unfolding bytes, and for half of them the mqa signal is lost in a down sampling process.
Not sure if it will be possible to get the 24bit MQAs back. Let's hope so or there's no longer a use in supporting Tidal.
We shouldn't call this "lossless" as it's not, it's mqa that has been corrupted so it will no longer unfold.
@Wim1975 That is something different altogether. Do you have any proof that TIDAL downgrades their audio from MQA? And what happens to non-MQA tracks that had been provided as normal WAVs/FLACs to the distributor? MQA itself has already been criticised to be not superior in terms of quality.
Not sure if it will be possible to get the 24bit MQAs back. Let's hope so or there's no longer a use in supporting Tidal.
Funny, because when you signed up with them, no word was given to you that they would provide you with unlimited downloads of any kind, be it MP3, lossless or MQA files. TIDAL is a streaming provider. Tidal Media Downloader is an unofficial, open-sourced app here using the TIDAL API to obtain the audio files off your streaming subscription, and I am pretty sure that TIDAL are not allowing us to download their catalogue. At least the artists who distribute their music there, of whom I am one, haven't given any agreement for TIDAL to do so. So be it as it may, you've never been promised any permanent music downloads with your subscription 😉.
In my experience, when you use tidal-dl v2021.11.21.1, you can also download 320kbps AAC encoded m4a files. This is with AudioQuality set to High. But maybe you want to download MASTER quality? I don't know if this is possible. My subscription does not include Master streams.
ENG: Hello, Tidal has changed the subscriptions, today is HiFi and Master, you have to check your account to upgrade to HiFi (CD Quality or 16/44.1) ... ESP: Hola, Tidal ha cambiado las suscripciones, hoy es HiFi y Master, tienes que revisar tu cuenta para actualizar a HiFi (CD Quality or 16/44.1)...
ENG: Hello, Tidal has changed the subscriptions, today is HiFi and Master, you have to check your account to upgrade to HiFi (CD Quality or 16/44.1) ...
Yes I know. Almirus stated that only flac streams can be downloaded. I just wanted to tell him that you can also download 160kbps (called normal quality) and 320kpbs (called high quality) AAC compressed files. So not only flac.
@CornelisJ only flac (I did not specify the bitrate) 😁 I want to download mp4 (as it was before)
It's says no MQA but i got myself 3 different MQA albums tonight and ROON coloured my DAC blue and purple so....definitely MQA😎
try to use https://github.com/purpl3F0x/MQA_identifier for to identify MQA
My ROON does a perfect job of "identifying" MQA tracks.
我有同样的问题。当按下“登录”时,应用程序只是关闭而不打开用于身份验证的浏览器窗口。
me too!
Do you have any proof that TIDAL downgrades their audio from MQA?
Yes I have, Golden One published this 29th of november, so quite short after I posted my findings.
And he came to the same conclusions.
When you stream tracks that are marked "Master" in HiFi mode, you won't get lossless cd quality version...
And you believe everything this Golden Boy Cameron Oatley tells you? Remember, he is only an economy student. Not quite the oracle on HiFi.
@Wim1975 Thanks for the link, was just curious! So any releases that are not 'Master' quality, irrespective of the tier you're subscribed to, you'd still get lossless files then?
And you believe everything this Golden Boy Cameron Oatley tells you? Remember, he is only an economy student. Not quite the oracle on HiFi.
Well I do believe him because he works with scientific evidence, just like me, and besides he came to the same conclusions as I did.
I did more tests and found VERY hard evidence :
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So when downloading a 24/88.2 mqa in hifi mode, you don't get "lossless cd quality", you get 16/88.2 mqa. This is hard evidence that when you play a "master" in Tidal "hifi" mode you DON'T get lossless. CASE CLOSED
If you don't understand this, there are a series of books ending with "... for dummies".
@Wim1975 Thanks for the link, was just curious! So any releases that are not 'Master' quality, irrespective of the tier you're subscribed to, you'd still get lossless files then?
Correct. ONLY the tracks that are NOT marked "master" are genuine redbooks. Those are getting scarce. You can find them on Qobuz though.
All tracks marked "master" on Tidal's server are mqas and mqas only. In HiFi mode you get a 16/44 conversion of these. Because Tidal wants to make you believe that mqa sounds better then cd quality by letting you compare mqa with mangled mqa. For honest comparisons => look up the 16/44 on qobuz.
@Wim1975 Don't need "dummies" books believe me. 💋 Using Adobe Auditon (remember CoolEdit?)and numerous audio editing tools for ages because i produce and compose music myself(Cubase, Nuendo, iZotope and VSTplugins etc.etc.) But your are "cooking" the files/tracks in your own kitchen and you don't have a MQA plugin or MQA codec like the boys in the studio have. Thats the whole piont here whatever you do to come to your conclusions. Comparing " apples and pears" like they say in our/your country Wim 😎
By the way " your DAC" being which??? Why is "your DAC" scientific proof or a standard? i hope it is a significant one?
But your are "cooking" the files/tracks in your own kitchen and you don't have a MQA plugin or MQA codec like the boys in the studio have. Thats the whole piont here whatever you do to come to your conclusions. Comparing " apples and pears" like they say in our/your country Wim 😎
You don't seem to understand that the file I "cooked" myself by stripping a 24/88 bit mqa (in a 24/44 flac) to a 16/88 bit mqa (in a 16/44 flac) is EXACTLY THE SAME - BIT BY BIT as the "lossless cd quality" track that Tidal is giving you when you download the master in HiFi mode. This means that Tidal is doing the exact same "cooking" !!!
This is VERY HARD EVIDENCE that Tidal is not giving you "lossless cd quality" but a 24/44 mqa missing every third byte.
Don't need "Adobe Audition" or anything else for that. I suggest you DO buy all the "for dummies" books.
I see you have a mission in life. Destroy everything and everybody who does not agree with you. Dont keep hanging in the in Nyquist religion and read some whitepapers on the MQA matter. Obviously nobody really takes the time in reading the sience behind Bob Stuarts invention. Happy reading🙌💖🥳 http://www.jas-audio.or.jp/jas_cms/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/201509-008-019.pdf https://www.aes.org/tmpFiles/elib/20211202/20455.pdf
You are even more stupid then I thought since you deny a SIMPLE MATHEMATICAL PROOF.
I see YOU have a mission in life defending Tidal/MQA at all costs, even when it's proven MQA is NOT LOSSLESS and when it's proven they are deceiving their subscribers from the first day, and that Tidal/Mqa continue doing so by delivering downsampled mqa as "lossless cd quality" which it's CERTAINLY NOT.
Deezer streams 16/44 only and it sounds MUCH better then mqa !
You are even more stupid then I thought since you deny a SIMPLE MATHEMATICAL PROOF.
I see YOU have a mission in life defending Tidal/MQA at all costs, even when it's proven MQA is NOT LOSSLESS and when it's proven they are deceiving their subscribers from the first day, and that Tidal/Mqa continue doing so by delivering downsampled mqa as "lossless cd quality" which it's CERTAINLY NOT.
Deezer streams 16/44 only and it sounds MUCH better then mqa !
quote "It should be pointed out that 33 Bowls has no fiscal or other remuneration from MQA" Lol, when I read that, then I know the site is from an mqa marketing clown, not a scientist.
Now look at this site where serious people took some real effort to see how mqa works. All the magic around mqa will vanish before your eyes.
http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/MQA/questions/QuriousAssumptions.html http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/MQA/OnImpulse/RingingInArrears.html
Do look at all the other links on this site concerning mqa You should be able to understand what's written there, after all, it's not encoded in lossy mqa, lol. Otoh, I do question you'll understand, the link you posted shows you are more into fairy tales.
Device authorization problem returned. Tidal-GUI Version 1.2.1.8
Can confirm. Tidal doesn't let us in anymore.
Same. Checked all the posts to no avail. Just a blank box as in the OP's post.
Can confirm as well. Same problem as a couple months ago.
Can confirm as well. Same problem as a couple months ago.
Yes, again the same problem to log in Tidal-Gui in Windows, not show CODE...
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