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REMOVE REVOLUTION. #153

Closed AdamElTablawy closed 8 years ago

AdamElTablawy commented 8 years ago

IT's SHIT.

NOBODY LIKES IT.

NOT SEC.

NOT THE HEADS.

NOBODY.

IT'S A SUPER SHORT SHITTY ROUND OR A LONG DRAGGED OUT GRIEF FEST, IT'S CULT WITH NO INTERESTING MECHANICS, AND IT'S A HIGHPOP CREW AUTOVICTORY OR A LONG DRAWN OUT 'CE HIDES IN HIS AUTISM FORT IN SPACE.'

EVERYONE PLAYS IT LIKE IT'S GODDAMN COUNTERSTRIKE.

ALMOST NO SERVER HAS IT ANYMORE.

REEEEEE REMOVE REV REEEEEEEEE

shrimptk commented 8 years ago

calm down

Groudonmaster commented 8 years ago

Holy shit what. I like Rev thank you. It's fun and relatively easy especially when you can open fire as a head.

AdamElTablawy commented 8 years ago

let's just go over it, shall we

it's a long, drawn out snorefest or it ends in 10 minutes

it's always a nightmare and barely fun for sec to play at all

nobody likes being CMO/RD for fear of rev

it turns into a giant grieffest fairly soon

it's hardly balanced at all with easy conversion mechanics but very very slow deconversion mechanics

gang is basically rev, fleshed out

cult is basically a slower rev

this is just,

heads can turtle/hide somewhere and stretch it out

or it ends in 10 minutes

it shouldn't even be out of concept stage, tbh

i've seen admins outright log off because it's rev

AdamElTablawy commented 8 years ago

just held a vote

'Remove revolution' won

Following behind it 'It needs changing'

Finally 'keep it' was at the low minority

evidently, playerbase dislikes it

Hydre commented 8 years ago

Instead of removing it which is a bad idea, we could just remove any kind of metashield there is against revs

B1gb3ast commented 8 years ago

Or leave it as it is because heads of staff win as often as revs.

It's fast paced, so is nuke ops.

It can also be slow paced, so is blob.

What's the problem?

Hydre commented 8 years ago

The problem is that on high pop rounds (as in 60-70-80 people) there's about 30-40 revs within the first 10 minutes of the round assuming the revheads know their shit. That's a guaranteed win for the revs

Groudonmaster commented 8 years ago

If we remove the metashield though we'll have shitlers running around flashing random people just for the luls and seeing people scream rev.

X-TheDark commented 8 years ago

Would reducing the cooldown of the flash be an option? But that would basically make the game be shittier gangs (since you only get 1 gang (revs) and can't buy your revs converter flashes).

AdamElTablawy commented 8 years ago

It's already shittier gangs.

On highpop it's a storm of 70 assistants and an instant win for heads.

The amount of prayers and people screaming 'it's rev fuck i hate it' is insane.

Seriously, the vote against rev won 9/8/5 for Remove it, Change it, Keep it

It's not fast paced like nukeops-It's either a ten minute victory with no counter against the tide wheras you can fight nukeops, or it's a one hour thirty minute round of hunting for the fucking CE hiding in space with his dick up his ass.

BadminBen commented 8 years ago

I suggest just putting in a timer on flash. Like gang pen, easy fix to give sec and heads a fighting chance. If heads are hiding out Revs if they have the caps ID can ask for "locator services"

Kmc2000 commented 8 years ago

Replace this shitfest with predators when?

AdamElTablawy commented 8 years ago

Held another vote.

Remove rev won 20/5.

NOBODY LIKES REV

DavidEdwards commented 8 years ago

I am extremely against removing content, especially when that content is workable. I was against removing gangs, and I am against removing rev.

If there truely is a problem with rev (as indicated by your poll), then we need to brainstorm what the problem IS then devise a solution to fix it.

Unless there is a council vote to the contrary.

On Wed, 27 Jan 2016 at 16:51 AdamElTablawy notifications@github.com wrote:

Held another vote.

Remove rev won 20/5.

NOBODY LIKES REV

— Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub https://github.com/yogstation13/yogstation/issues/153#issuecomment-175699811 .

MfG David Edwards Android Software Engineer

george99g commented 8 years ago

Unless there is a council vote to the contrary.

There have not been any council votes regarding this.

DavidEdwards commented 8 years ago

I meant unless there -will be- a vote. Not if there had already been one.

On Wed, 27 Jan 2016 at 17:56 george99g notifications@github.com wrote:

Unless there is a council vote to the contrary.

There have not been any council votes regarding this.

— Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub https://github.com/yogstation13/yogstation/issues/153#issuecomment-175742067 .

MfG David Edwards Android Software Engineer

Super3222 commented 8 years ago

A council vote (or maybe a community vote?) would make it final on whether or not to remove this mode. Honestly it'd be sad to see it go, but give me more relief whenever I play as a head role.

Though the days as HoP gunning down revs with combat shotguns will never be forgotten.

Groudonmaster commented 8 years ago

I think we should just add a delay to the revhead flash. It'd balance it out and we wouldn't have to remove an entire gamemode because Adam is a saltmine.

DavidEdwards commented 8 years ago

OK - council vote clearly indicates Rev stays. We are open to suggestions for improvement however. Small improvements. I will be closing this issue. Please move any improvement related suggestions from this issue into this forum thread: http://forums.yogstation.net/index.php?threads/vote-removal-of-rev-gamemode.9092/ or happily create a new issue for improving Rev.