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Original comment by andreas.chr.osowski
on 14 Nov 2009 at 12:30
This might related to the recamping bug #1024 of the GSM hardware:
http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1024
but that does not explain uptime increase.
Original comment by skliarie@gmail.com
on 25 Nov 2009 at 6:24
It might if if wakes up every time it re-camps and then has to time out before
it
sleeps again. Are you still experiencing this with a recent (after 20-Nov)
build?
Original comment by scarhill
on 25 Nov 2009 at 2:57
No, I haven't seen any commit in the daily builds for last week or two.
Original comment by skliarie@gmail.com
on 25 Nov 2009 at 3:15
I pushed a change on 12-Nov which should restore the previous behavior wrt
#1024.
Please retest with a recent daily or weekly build to see if it resolves your
issue
Original comment by scarhill
on 25 Nov 2009 at 5:38
I am using week 48 and have symptoms of suspend not working. The moko seems to
doze
in and off suspend. I can hear a click from the speakers every few minutes and
when I
wake it up, the clock is only 3 mins behind.
Original comment by roberto....@gmail.com
on 30 Nov 2009 at 4:16
Roberto, can you do the test like one I have done at the description and post
the
results? This is to test whether the change of scarhill improved things.
Original comment by skliarie@gmail.com
on 30 Nov 2009 at 4:24
Ok, I'll do it friday. Just one question, shall I read uptime via terminal or
usb
connection is fine?
Original comment by roberto....@gmail.com
on 1 Dec 2009 at 3:24
Via terminal (adb shell cat /proc/uptime) should be ok.
Just remember to disconnect the phone from USB after that.
Original comment by skliarie@gmail.com
on 1 Dec 2009 at 3:28
This is very strange...
At the begninning I didn't had this issue; then I installed some apks and I
noticed
this issue to happen again... However I don't really think this issue related
to
anything from third party. But today I noticed a strange behavior in fact, I
navigated some time at the university using the wifi and disabling the
suspension at
all; then, before of going home, I turned on the suspension and everything
worked
well (the phone was suspended correctly, I couldn't hear the "resume 'clicks'"
nor
turning on the LCD with many AUX pressures [that works when resuming fails]; I
also
was able to turn wakeup and suspend it again)... Then I come home, some hours
later,
and I resumed the phone: since then It never goes to sleep anymore :|.
To get the point, however, I think that we should look at the rtc
implementation, in
fact these resumes are all caused by the rtc interrupt timer as you can see
from:
# cat /sys/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/resume_reason
4000000000
# cat /sys/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/neo1973-resume.0/resume_reason
EINT00_ACCEL1
EINT01_GSM
EINT02_BLUETOOTH
EINT03_DEBUGBRD
EINT04_JACK
EINT05_WLAN
EINT06_AUXKEY
EINT07_HOLDKEY
EINT08_ACCEL2
* EINT09_PMU
EINT10_NULL
EINT11_NULL
EINT12_GLAMO
EINT13_NULL
EINT14_NULL
EINT15_NULL
So, basically it seems that the phone enables - every second - the rtc timer to
make
it send an interrupt to the CPU. This is not acceptable, of course...
Original comment by trevi55
on 3 Dec 2009 at 12:01
trevi55 is that a kernel bug ?
Original comment by Black.D....@gmail.com
on 3 Dec 2009 at 3:01
Mh, no I don't think so... I just think that android sets a rtc timer also if
it is
not needed (it should set them just for alerts), at every given seconds (it
seems).
The kernel does what is designed for.
Original comment by trevi55
on 3 Dec 2009 at 3:35
There are definitely buggy apps out there that keep the Freerunner from
suspending. I
have also seen it fail to suspend after making a phone call. I think the RIL
doesn't
release a wake lock in all circumstances. I definitely don't see it waking
every
minute, and can leave it suspended overnight (8 or 9 hours) while only losing
~10% on
battery level.
Original comment by scarhill
on 4 Dec 2009 at 2:57
I reset to the week 48 image. I had it at 90% battery before i went to sleep 8
hours
later it was on around 83% i think ish. There are probably buggy applications.
Is it
possible to block these ? (or should we just kill any that are still running
before
suspending?).
Original comment by Black.D....@gmail.com
on 4 Dec 2009 at 3:10
Actually, thinking back at the pattern of the last days, it occurred to me it
could
actually be an application. One among navit, mapdroid, ygps and gpsstatus.
I'll first try the test as detailed above after rebooting the moko.
Original comment by roberto....@gmail.com
on 4 Dec 2009 at 2:28
I've no one of these apps, and the issue rests. Plus, as I pointed out before,
the
suspension is broken by an alarm, so we have to check who interacts with it.
Myabe some apps could affcet this behavior, but there's a deeper bug.
Original comment by trevi55
on 4 Dec 2009 at 2:45
A configured mail app will cause problems with suspending.
Just yesterday, I got a mail notification over gprs. I ignored it and attempted
to
put the phone to sleep with the 2-second power button push. The screen turned
off
then immediately back on locked. I tried again with the same result. After
several
tries, i unlocked the phone, opened the email app to clear the notification, and
tried one last time. The phone correctly suspended after that.
Network applications will wake the phone up to check their respective data
sources,
but should otherwise not affect anything.
The calender and alarm apps should wake the phone up until they enter sleep
states,
but should not hurt anything else.
I can account for all these wakeups in daily usage, but i still get random
wakeups at
times.
Maybe it comes from applications attempting to determine location? (which
doesn't
seem to work for me anyway)
Original comment by rooly4@gmail.com
on 8 Dec 2009 at 3:02
Can we try to bufferize with timestamp the resume_reason and when they happen?
The
attribute can contains 4k of data so a lot of it. We can try to have 1 hour of
data
and check how many time the mobile wake up for suspend
Original comment by michaelt...@gmail.com
on 27 Dec 2009 at 8:18
having random wakeups in rc1 0.2.0.
Original comment by b.ruh...@web.de
on 3 Feb 2010 at 8:31
[deleted comment]
Me too, with the RC1 0.2.0, I have random wakeups. sorry, no informations at
the moment
PS: My phone is #1024 bug Fixed
Original comment by Florent....@gmail.com
on 9 Feb 2010 at 1:20
Me too, i can hear the speaker's click every few minutes. the battery
discharges at a
rate of about 4%/h, but my FR is not #1024 bug fixed. i'll update the firmware
soon and
post again.
Original comment by dopp...@gmail.com
on 2 Mar 2010 at 7:27
android-on-freerunner-cupcake-0.2.0-RC1.tar.gz: all network services
GPS,WiFi,GSM are
off (no SIM inside) and no alarms went off during the test.
Result: while sleeping - it is awake for 3239 seconds per hour.
How can I see applications that prevent the phone from sleeping?
Original comment by skliarie@gmail.com
on 20 May 2010 at 9:36
I did the same test after removing the "WiFi toggle" and "GPS toggle" widgets
and
rebooting and voila: The phone used just 60 seconds of for the hour!
I am now trying to find out which application spoil the battery.
BTW, I don't know whether I have Openmoko http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/1024
bug on
my phone.
Original comment by skliarie@gmail.com
on 20 May 2010 at 11:59
Please, in detail, how you have done this:
> removing the "WiFi toggle" and "GPS toggle" widgets
Original comment by Alexandr...@gmail.com
on 20 May 2010 at 3:51
I saw that these two widgets - "WiFi toggle" and "GPS toggle" use CPU even when
the
FreeRunner is not in use, so decided to switch them off.
I have not finished my tests yet, but looks like the way to get long-life is to
not
use WiFi,GPS and GSM after reboot. You should switch on "Airplane mode" and
reboot
the phone, so it would not attempt to use any of the radios.
I will post my observations once I get better picture.
Original comment by skliarie@gmail.com
on 20 May 2010 at 8:35
With this radio-free configuration after 10 hours of standby time the battery
was 80%
full. This gives us about 43 hours. On average it spent 17 seconds per hour
awake
while sleeping.
Tomorrow I will make similar test with GSM enabled, so we can compare results
with
SHR-based ones from here: http://neil.brown.name/blog/20090224195326
Original comment by skliarie@gmail.com
on 23 May 2010 at 4:41
Using the default email app, I get low battery life and need to reboot often.
Switching mail apps seems to help this problem. I've switched to maildroid and
seen
a significant increase in battery life. I don't have any numbers just yet, will
post
soon.
Original comment by rooly4@gmail.com
on 23 May 2010 at 10:07
All-
Reading through your talk here, and it's gr8 stuff. Low power mode and battery
drain
is a challenge to all vendors, linux, embedded, and otherwise. Here's an
insider's
bit of info though.
I don't feel "uptime" is a valid metric for dealing with the topic you're going
after. Instead, you should be measuring the current consumption of each
component on
your board, and figuring out its contribution to your total current
consumption.
Specifically, you need to know how much your uP consumes at it's highest
frequency
rate, it's lowest (e.g. off) and everything in between. You need to know how
much
your modem consumes. And your RF front end, and everything else.
You need to break it down, and add everything back up again, to compare against
your
actual current drain out of your battery terminals.
anyways, back on topic.
uptime doesn't appear to me to be a valid metric for this topic.
http://linux.die.net/man/5/proc
/proc/uptime
This file contains two numbers: the uptime of the system (seconds), and the
amount of time spent in idle process (seconds).
As for measuring current, you create a "loop" for the power supply to each
device on
your board. And you get a current probe, and hook it up to an o-scope, to
watch,
over the duration of a period of time (e.g. a slot) and fight each and every
little
peak that comes up.
THEN you can work your way down to the ~3mA range that is acceptable for an
embedded
hand-held device.
Good Luck!
Original comment by TheDixt...@gmail.com
on 3 Jun 2010 at 9:53
Original issue reported on code.google.com by
skliarie@gmail.com
on 10 Nov 2009 at 1:18