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Lexicon of New Ithkuil in JSON format
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Root for book(binding) #24

Open lynn opened 1 month ago

lynn commented 1 month ago

Many people run into Ithkuil not having a word for "book" and often it is repeated that the appropriate word is eňtyark.

I've described books on the Ithkuil server as

such a basic popular object with strong symbolic value and cultural importance, that I would expect Ithkuil to not only have a root for book, but also for [easily talking about] parts of a book, act of bookbinding, codex, vellum, paperback, hardcover, a manuscript, the printing press, etc.

A book is not just an eňtyark. That is a fine word but it also describes stapled documents, brochures, folders, etc. Meanwhile, a book has more parts than just its pages, and more aesthetic/symbolic value than just its contents or status as "bunch of pages bound together".

Meanwhile it's weird to have a root for newspaper (-KSŇ-) but not book.

Alongside -ŇTY- I propose something like -ŇTW-:

  1. aňtwal: bookbinding (BSC: to bookbind, CTE: to store information into a book, CSV: physical act of binding a book, OBJ: book/codex)
  2. eňtwal: printing (BSC: to print, CTE: to arrange information into a printed page / to typeset, CSV: phsyical act of ink-on-paper, OBJ: printed page)
  3. uňtwal: "digital" bookbinding (BSC: to make an ebook/audiobook, CTE: to arrange information into a digital book, CSV: the digital conversion/compilation process, OBJ: ebook/audiobook)

From this root we can derive words like: wiki, manual, atlas, chapter, booklet, printing press, …

ryanlo713 commented 1 month ago

I have reviewed the description you posted on the server. It is valuable for supplementing the essence of a root, while the word "eňtyark" is suitable for describing the physical composition of a book. In my opinion, for an e-book, the concept of book pages is obviously not crucial, and the word formation can be based on the essence of a book rather than its physical structure.

Wiktionary defines book as follows:

  1. A collection of sheets of paper bound together to hinge at one edge, containing printed or written material, pictures, etc.
  2. A long work fit for publication, typically prose, such as a novel or textbook, and typically published as such a bound collection of sheets, but now sometimes electronically as an e-book.
  3. A convenient collection, in a form resembling a book, of small paper items for individual use. etc.

Furthermore, whither stem or affix would you prefer for indicating different parts of a book? How about the semantic pattern thereof?

lynn commented 1 month ago

The PWF and PWC affixes seem promising but I admit I don't totally understand them. Could aňtwilëimž mean "spine of a book", without implying any metaphor/metonymy?

ryanlo713 commented 1 month ago

For a spine of a book, the affixes “skeleton / frame” and/or “middle or divisional segment or joint (e.g., elbow, knee, knuckle)” could be more suitable to convey the intended meaning.


Furthermore, this discussion can encompass configurative sets pertaining to the informational content of the article or book.

The classification of information amount involves various hierarchical levels. At the most granular level, we have the "paragraph." A paragraph represents a collection of related sentences discussing a specific topic or idea. It is a fundamental unit of organization that aids in presenting information in a coherent and concise manner.

Moving up from the paragraph, we have the "section." A section encompasses a group of paragraphs that are focused on a particular theme or concept. It provides a deeper level of organization and helps to group related information together within a larger body of text.

Going further up the hierarchy, we find the "chapter." A chapter expands upon the concept of a section and encompasses a collection of sections that relate to a broader division of the book. Chapters often serve as major divisions within a book, providing an organizational structure that allows for a logical progression of ideas and topics.

Beyond the chapter, we have the "volume." A volume represents a larger thematic unit within a book or a series of works. It can be thought of as a self-contained section of the overall publication. Volumes are often used in multi-book formats, such as encyclopedias or collected works, where a large amount of information is divided into manageable parts.

At the broadest level of classification, we have a "set." A set refers to a multi-book format that spans across multiple volumes. It is commonly used to encompass an entire series or a comprehensive collection of related works. Sets allow for the organization and presentation of a vast amount of information, providing readers with a comprehensive resource on a particular subject.

In summary, the classification of information amount involves the hierarchical levels of paragraph, section, chapter, volume, and set. Each level serves a specific purpose in organizing and presenting information within a book or a series of works.