hand-some-man
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4 years ago After playing a bit more I think I can sum up the main issues with trading.
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AI does not appear to project future scenario (what things look like after a trade) but only does it for the current situation. Or if it does do this, it does it very poorly. This prevents scenarios above where you trade a top3 pick for a great player, and your top3 pick isn't top3 anymore... So the AI got a bad deal.
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AI overly values picks in general. Best illustrated during draft, I want to draft player X, trade with the team who holds the pick (they want a ridiculous amount). They convert the pick into player X, and I immediately can do a reasonable trade that this point. In fact this is how I would 'game' this system and just wait till they draft instead of trading for picks before the draft.
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Pick should be as valuable as the player it'll draft. (Shouldn't change in value after converting pick like above) But also I noticed, it doesn't matter if you hold the top3 pick for a good draft class or bad draft class. The AI aggressively values all of it. Or another scenario, I trade a low 1st round pick for rookie Gary Payton, there is no way I can draft a player as good as Gary Payton using the pick. But the AI just really values picks!
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The reverse is difficult, you have a proven player but you want to rebuild so you want to trade him for picks... Good luck. AI will not give up a low 1st round pick for proven players. This is counter to real life, I think most teams would be willing to trade their low 1st round pick for a proven player.
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AI trading difficulty is so linear. That is, they try to just give you horrendously bad trades as a way to be 'smarter'. I ask for 1st round pick in the (3 years) future, they want all my first round picks... Or I offer a 1st round pick in trading block, they offer me a second round pick straight up -- LIKE WHY is this even an offer.
I think to not see these silly trades, don't even show them in the trading block. In a trade window show right off the bat what a team excludes. Instead of me getting the message it's untouchable because they want 4 first round picks for their 1 first round pick (that no one can possibly know if it's even top 3).
Started a game 1987 with Normal difficulty, real players with 90% close to real life potential.
Tried to trade for Jordan of course... Heres the trade:
The 76ers traded A.C. Green, a 1987 1st round pick (PHI), a 1987 1st round pick (POR), and a 1988 1st round pick (PHI) to the Bulls for Michael Jordan, John Paxson, and a 1987 1st round pick (CHI).My 1987 1st round pick (PHI) is going to be top 3, and maybe the AI can see the 1988 could land top 10 considering my team is bad. So not a bad trade... but the bug, or the poor AI here is that by giving me Jordan my picks are going to become less valuable, and their pick is going to be more valuable! This is so unrealistic!
I ended up winning the championship, and the CHI 1st round pick I own is now 2, and the pick I traded them is now 9.
And to make matters worse this trade went through before draft:
The 76ers traded Andrew Toney, Danny Vranes, and a 1987 1st round pick (CHI) to the Bulls for A.C. Green, Charles Oakley, Brad Sellers, a 1987 1st round pick (PHI), and a 1987 1st round pick (POR).I basically re-traded the picks again. Gave away filler for cap, got back AC Green, got Oakley.
This just seems so unrealistic. I basically got Jordan, Paxson, Oakley for trading Tony & Vranes (they're just cap fillers) and my 1988 1st round pick (which is bad now, since my team is ridiculous). Since the picks get swapped back in the end.