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Examples for qualities #9

Open GoogleCodeExporter opened 9 years ago

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
The current examples only include qualities that always inhere in the
bearer (e.g. mass) not some that can go away (Barry's examples were
headache, sunburn). One of the latter should be included.  

Original issue reported on code.google.com by bjoern.p...@gmail.com on 16 Dec 2009 at 3:21

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
I am still confused by this, and am wondering if we are talking about the same 
thing when referring for example to "headache". 

I will use the definition from wikipedia "A headache or cephalgia is pain 
anywhere in the region of the head or neck." as a starting point. In the paper 
"Towards an Ontology of Pain and of Pain-Related Phenomena", available at 
ontology.buffalo.edu/medo/Pain.pdf, the authors propose a treatment of pain.
They define pain as "pain =def. an unpleasant experience on the part of a human 
subject  that is both sensory and emotional and that is of a type that is 
either canonical pain (PCT) or phenomenologically indistinguishable from 
canonical pain" adding "The canonical pain process will involve activity in 
many components of the central nervous system. Part of the physical basis for 
this process is localized in the sensory cortex and emotional centers."
This seem to indicate that pain is not a quality, and therefore headache 
wouldn't be one.

I think there is a disposition to have a headache (similar to the disease 
disposition) and there is a process realizing this disposition, the headache 
(similar to the disease course) Authors of the paper above also mention a 
physical basis for pain, which could be treated in the same way than disorders 
are the physical basis for disease.

Regarding the sunburn example, in the paper mentioned above, authors take the 
example "primary sunburn" to illustrate PCT, pain with Concordant Tissue 
damage, and indicate that the physical basis of the pain is the activation of 
nociceptive system through peripheral tissue damage. This seem again consistent 
with the treatment proposed above.

Original comment by mcour...@gmail.com on 28 Jan 2011 at 6:12

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
I think "headache" is a leftover from discussions of accident vs. substance.

"suntan" might be a better example than "sunburn", though, with the caveat that 
it is vague---a given skin melanin concentration for me might be a suntan but 
not for you.

Original comment by batchelorc@rsc.org on 31 Jan 2011 at 9:48

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Original comment by alanruttenberg@gmail.com on 7 May 2012 at 4:51

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Original comment by alanruttenberg@gmail.com on 8 May 2012 at 4:16

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Original comment by alanruttenberg@gmail.com on 8 May 2012 at 4:37

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
During immunology meeting we discussed adverse events with Barry, who indicated 
he now believes headache is a process (and thus could be an "event" if we 
restrict events to processes)

Original comment by mcour...@gmail.com on 10 Jul 2012 at 8:23