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A Python 3 project to implement EZSP for EmberZNet devices
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[HARDWARE] DEFARO SprutStick Pro - another maker of Zigbee USB-sticks based on Silicon Labs EFR32 Series 1 #242

Closed Hedda closed 3 years ago

Hedda commented 4 years ago

FYI, might be cool to follow this "DEFARO Zigbee Sprut Stick" project from @sprut ( sprut.ai ) by @sprut666666 as it would be nice to also have support for newer Zigbee adapters based on Silicon Labs EFR32 which uses newer SDK

Just read about their prototypes for new Ember / EmberZNet / EZSP based "DEFARO SprutStick 2" and "DEFARO SprutStick Pro" USB-sticks they are working on which will be based on an EFR32MG13P, MGM12P, or EFR32MG12 chips from the first-generation EFR32MG / EFR32MG1 family in Silicon Labs EFR32 series (EFR32MG12 Series 1 a.k.a. Wireless Gecko Series 1 or Flex Gecko) featuring a Zigbee stack.

Updated: Final version is called "DEFARO SprutStick Pro" (based on EFR32MG12) and ships now with standard EmberZNet firmware:

Perhaps @sprut / @sprut666666 be willing to donate adapters to developers of zigpy & bellows?

Made in Russia and posts are in all Russian and therefore had to use google translate to read so don't understand everything they have written about it but could be interesting for users of bellows even if the "SprutStick" is originallyy designed to be used in with "Spruthub" (Sprut.hub) which is a Russian home automation platform that relies on different USB adapters for connectivity.

https://sprut.ai/client/article/2583

https://www.instagram.com/sprut666666/

Anyway, apparently they are already testing it with Home Assistant ZHA using bellows via zigpy

https://sprut.ai/static/media/cache/00/18/44/40/2583/55648/3000x_image.jpg

https://sprut.ai/static/media/cache/00/18/44/40/2583/55649/3000x_image.jpg

https://sprut.ai/static/media/cache/00/18/44/40/2583/55663/3000x_image.jpg

Never heard about them before but apparently Defaro is a manufacturer of Zigbee & Z-Wave devices

https://defaro.ru

Hedda commented 4 years ago

Also see #243 as that hardware is based on the same family and series of EFR32 chip from Silicon Labs.

Hedda commented 4 years ago

Not sure how missed it but apparently Elelabs Zigbee USB adapter and Pi shield is based on EFR32MG1

Elelabs Zigbee Raspberry Pi Shield => https://elelabs.com/products/elelabs-zigbee-shield.html

Elelabs Zigbee USB Adapter => https://elelabs.com/products/elelabs-usb-adapter.html

Credits to @MattWestb who stumbled on this info and posted it in https://github.com/Koenkk/zigbee-herdsman/issues/168

I thought that Elelabs had not published exactly which chip type they were using other than they were from Silicon Labs, so I had no idea that they are based on EFR32 MG1 (EFR32 Mighty Gecko Series 1).

I was sure that Elelabs only marketed those as alternatives Nortek GoControl QuickStick Combo Model HUSBZB-1 if you only want a Zigbee adapter compatible the bellows library as used in the ZHA integration component for Home Assistant. I know that the fact that HUSBZB-1 is not sold outside the United States was the main reason that Elelabs started making those, at least they at first have been targeting Home Assistant's ZHA users, and later also openHAB users.

Regardless Elelabs must only ship with old firmware version(s) with their products since it is compatible with the bellows library out-of-the-box and the fact is that the bellows library is currently only compatible with the older versions of EZSP protocols.

sprut666666 commented 4 years ago

Hi, and thanks for your interest in the product. The stick was developed for Sprut.hub and works with the latest version of SDK (the latest firmware with the latest version of SDK will always be provided) The first batch of sticks was sold in the first 5 minutes after the start https://spruthub.ru/stick The next batch will be already large and based on the chip https://www.silabs.com/wireless/zigbee/efr32mg21-series-2-socs/device.efr32mg21a010f1024im32

Hedda commented 4 years ago

@sprut666666 Any chance you would consider donating series 1 and/or series 2 adapters to @Adminiuga for bellows and zigpy development?

Adminiuga commented 4 years ago

I appreaciate, but shipping is going to be a killer and ATM it's lack of time is the limiting factor. But once bellows supports v8, whether it is mg1 or mg2 series, to bellows it would be transparent.

I'd rather have someone explain me, why with the current bellows settings, Aqara no-neutral US wall switch, joins fine out of the box for the 1st time, but if you reset it and try to join again, it doesn't want to join. (joins and leaves). Still have to try it with the gateway app from Silabs, should offer some clues.

sprut666666 commented 4 years ago

@sprut666666 Any chance you would consider donating series 1 and/or series 2 adapters to @Adminiuga for bellows and zigpy development?

The second batch of sticks is still in production. And for development it is better to use the dev kit https://www.instagram.com/p/B7qswCSCrfY/ Moreover, now it seems you can buy for $ 99 https://www.silabs.com/development-tools/wireless/efr32xg22-wireless-starter-kit

sprut666666 commented 4 years ago

I appreaciate, but shipping is going to be a killer and ATM it's lack of time is the limiting factor. But once bellows supports v8, whether it is mg1 or mg2 series, to bellows it would be transparent.

I'd rather have someone explain me, why with the current bellows settings, Aqara no-neutral US wall switch, joins fine out of the box for the 1st time, but if you reset it and try to join again, it doesn't want to join. (joins and leaves). Still have to try it with the gateway app from Silabs, should offer some clues.

Quite right, firmware 6.7.6 globally does not differ from series to series.

I'm sorry, but I'm not using zigpy and ha. On the problem, you need to look at silabs policy and traffic zigbee sniff. We did not notice such a problem, the Aqara no-neutral work perfectly. List of tested equipment here https://v2.sprut.ai/catalog?tags=SprutHub

Hedda commented 3 years ago

@sprut666666 Which firmware are you using on SprutStick adapters? If standard EmberZNet with EZSP API firmware then can just close this as SprutStick with such firmware should be compatible with bellows and zigpy out-of-the-box without modifcations.

sprut666666 commented 3 years ago

@sprut666666 Which firmware are you using on SprutStick adapters? If standard EmberZNet with EZSP API firmware then can just close this as SprutStick with such firmware should be compatible with bellows and zigpy out-of-the-box without modifcations.

It's standard EmberZNet + minor edits.

Hedda commented 3 years ago

@sprut666666 OK so they work out-of-the-box with Home Assistant's ZHA via bellows EZSP support without firmware upgrades?

https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/zha/

sprut666666 commented 3 years ago

@sprut666666 OK so they work out-of-the-box with Home Assistant's ZHA via bellows EZSP support without firmware upgrades?

https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/zha/

If ZHA can 6.8.2.0 then yes

Hedda commented 3 years ago

If ZHA can 6.8.2.0 then yes

It does support it but so far 6.8.x.x has proven to be unstable and therefore 6.7.x.x is still recommended for stability in production.

sprut666666 commented 3 years ago

If ZHA can 6.8.2.0 then yes

It does support but so far 6.8.2.x has proven to be unstable and therefore 6.7.x.x is still recommended for stability in production.

I didn't notice any problems other than ZLL in 6.8.2.0, on the contrary, the stability increased.

Hedda commented 3 years ago

As I have seen, most reports of instability with EmberZNet 6.8.x.x firmware comes from those who have hacked Sonoff ZBBridge with Tasmota and using its serial TCP server as a remote adapter with Home Assistant ZHA -> https://www.digiblur.com/2020/07/how-to-use-sonoff-zigbee-bridge-with.html

I believe that @Adminiuga is still beta testing EmberZNet 6.8.x.x firmware with bellows using Elelabs ELU013 and/or ELR023. Those adapters are both based on EFR32MG13P -> https://github.com/zha-ng/EZSP-Firmware/tree/master/Elelabs-ELU013

Elelabs themselves have not yet officially released any EmberZNet 6.8.x.x firmware updates but said back in September that they had plans to release EmberZNet 6.8.x.x firmware upgrades in October -> https://github.com/Elelabs/elelabs-zigbee-ezsp-utility/issues/3

sprut666666 commented 3 years ago

We have tested 6.8 since the silabs beta, we have observed that the stability has increased significantly, but ZLL 🤬🤬🤬

MattWestb commented 3 years ago

Thats sound bad that ZLL is going down then most users is using lights in there HA systems :-(( But the good is the overall stability is improved and hope silabs is fixing the ZLL problems i future of EZSP release.

Great feedback sprut666666 !!!

Hedda commented 3 years ago

@sprut666666 have you tested both upgraded and downgrading firmware on DEFARO SprutStick Pro with Elelabs EZSP Utility?

https://github.com/Elelabs/elelabs-zigbee-ezsp-utility

Great thing about that Elelabs EZSP Firmware Update Utility is should work with all adapters using standard Silabs bootloader.

Hedda commented 3 years ago

@sprut / @sprut666666 FYI, "DEFARO SprutStick Pro" is now listed as zigpy/bellows compatible adapters -> https://github.com/zigpy/bellows/pull/374

MattWestb commented 3 years ago

@sprut666666 ZHA is starting "recommending" EZSP 6.7.8.0 after some critical bug fixes that is not implanted in 6.8 and 6.9 branch. Is it anny plan doing one update for the first and second gen of your EFR32 1/2 ? I can only finding 6.7.6.0 on the download page.

And one more question on ZHA wiki supported list its only on devices listed but the sprutstick-pro do have 2 hardware version. Should it being listed as 2 separate or only the new one ?